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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:18:52 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


What is the life expectancy in Canada?

Ever use a search engine?

Canada life expectancy is total population: 80.22 years
male: 76.86 years
female: 83.74 years (2006 est.)

US:total population: 77.85 years
male: 75.02 years
female: 80.82 years (2006 est.)

Infant mortality Canada total: 4.69 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 5.15 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 4.22 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

US total: 6.43 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 7.09 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 5.74 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

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DSK wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than
anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries?


It's not.

Can you point to *ANY* statistic or metric on health in which the U.S.
is the top nation? Much less any bundle of such statistics (other than
obesity & smoking)?

I know of only one: the U.S. has more jingoistic (look it up) boneheads
who trumpet how the U.S. is the BEST BEST BEST per capita of any
developed country.

If you don't like living in the US of A and especially if you don't like
the attitude of the majority, 50% + 1, people then you are free to move
to any other country on the face of this earth, except the ones that
will not take you because you will not be bringing in millions of
dollars and will be employing half of the 30% of unemployed people now
living in those countries.

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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:01:26 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


How many unskilled persons have been allowed to immigrate into Canada
within the last 25 years? Remember, I said unskilled persons have been
allowed to immigrate into Canada? Allowing wealth people from Asia and
Europe doesn't count.

Don't know, but it is estimated that 1/4 of Ontario's construction
industry are illegals.

http://are.berkeley.edu/APMP/pubs/ag...ada111503.html

How many thousands, not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, of
people is that exactly?

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:32:36 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Not *my* patients. Unless, of course, they happen to be Canadian. Why do
they spend thousands down here with me if they can get if for free up
there?

Your pleasant demeanor? ;-) I don't know. Is dental covered in Canada?

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Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can
see a
doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515

"Most of what we hear about the Canadian health care system is
negative; in particular, the long waiting times for medical
procedures. But we found that waiting times affect few patients,
only 3.5% of Canadians vs. 0.7% of people in the U.S."

How is that not significant? If I wrote the headline, it would
read: "Five times as many Canadian patients are affected by long
waiting times compared to American patients".

The fact that the author downplays that important fact, yet hypes
another fact like "9.9% of U.S. respondents couldn't afford medicine
vs. 5.1% in Canada", shows his bias.

No matter what country you're talking about, why should it EVER be a
luxury item? I know the usual drivel: It's not mentioned in the
Constitution, but that's not a good enough reason.

Health insurance ought to be made more affordable. Period. Start
with the insurers. Repeal that damn McCarron-Ferguson Act, and put
insurance under Federal regulation. Allow small businesses to band
together across state lines and purchase insurance through their
national associations.

I wouldn't be opposed to paying higher taxes to cover medical
insurance if I didn't have to spend what I currently spend on health
insurance...*AND* I could get coverage at least as good as what I
currently have.

It costs my family $1200/month for insurance. Add that to the
$800/month I spend for my employees, and that's $24000/year that I
spend on health insurance. They could raise my tax rate 5 percentage
points and it would still be cheaper than what I'm paying now.

Oooh....government regulation. You're a liberal!

And you're a conservative:

"I agree. If I need an x-ray and money's tight, I can put it on a credit
card. And, there's never a problem with $60 office visits to the
internist. Meanwhile, I'm paying $300 a month for Blue Choice, for
medical needs which may never happen. I'd love to have a policy that
covered everything over X amount - $2K a year, or some such thing.
"

You just described Bush's medical savings account plan.

"On August 21, 1996, President Clinton signed into law the
Kassebaum-Kennedy bill that allows Americans to open a Medical Savings
Account (MSA)."

Unless you're finicky about the numbers, it seems to be a different
president's plan.

Bush's *Health* Savings Accounts. HSA's. Sorry.

" Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) were created by the Medicare bill signed
by President Bush on December 8, 2003 and are designed to help individuals
save for future qualified medical and retiree health expenses on a
tax-free basis. "

http://www.treasury.gov/offices/public-affairs/hsa/

Some people pay outrageous amounts of money to see the Rolling Stones or
Luciano Pavarotti. I would've paid maybe $200 to watch someone trying to
explain the plan to Nookular Boy. It would've been the best 8 hours worth of
entertainment imaginable.

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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:18:52 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


What is the life expectancy in Canada?

Ever use a search engine?

Canada life expectancy is total population: 80.22 years
male: 76.86 years
female: 83.74 years (2006 est.)

US:total population: 77.85 years
male: 75.02 years
female: 80.82 years (2006 est.)

Infant mortality Canada total: 4.69 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 5.15 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 4.22 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

US total: 6.43 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 7.09 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 5.74 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

Thanks for doing the work?

Is giving half of my income to the government work 2.65 years of living?
Don't know haven't figured that one out yet.


When children bear children there will always be infant mortality issues.

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If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just
being argumentative.
I don't have to explain it. If a survey of human beings indicates
that
they like their country, who the **** are we to criticize their
economic system? Having said that, I know why you do it: You lump all
socialist countries into one big category, so you think Finland
equals
the USSR. Do as you wish.
Did you forget to take your lithium today Doug?

You are the one that is getting all hot and bothered because people
are
not taking your word as gospel regarding the socio-economic systems
you
prefer.

I prefer this one, so I live here. You, on the other hand, think you
have
information that the Finns are unaware of.

Finland is still a socialist state and all of the freedoms of a country
like and only like the US are not available to them.

Which freedoms?


The freedom to determine how most of your income is spent.
John

We don't have that here. What on earth are you talking about?

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While the separate arguments he makes looks pretty good on their
face,
when you put them together it seems a bit like leaving the hen house
unlocked, and handing the keys to the fox. Basically, let the bad
oil
companies alone set the price for the raw material they need, as
they
see fit? How's that gonna work?

What are you talking about??? The henhouse is *already* unlocked!
The presence of non-industry gamblers in the hedging process is the
largest part of the problem. Are you saying they *belong* in the
futures market because they somehow keep the oil companies honest???
The world according to Doug Kanter, aka JoeSpareBedroom, sure must be
a rigid one. If I have money to invest or speculate on commodities or
futures why should I be limited to specific vehicles?

Your world doesn't sound like a place most of us Americans want to
live in.

It's already that kind of world. Walk into a brokerage firm and tell
them you want to play with uncovered call options. There's a 50/50
chance that they'll walk you to the door because the regulations are
designed to prevent people from jumping off bridges.
However, if I have enough of a net worth I can play with uncovered call
options.


Anyway...back to the oil subject: Oil is a product too important to be
fiddled with by monkeys. Would you agree that when the price increases by
50%, it affects parts of the economy in negative ways?

Develop another source of usable energy that is more cost effective than
oil is and you could be rich. Otherwise, shut up and pay before you pump.


Irrelevant. Would you agree that when the price increases by 50%, it affects
parts of the economy in negative ways?

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:36:26 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The nimrod that helped create Florida's insurance problems when he served
as Insurance Commissioner for 6 years, is now our US senator. And he
opposes the Small Business Health Fairness Act which would allow small
businesses to band together across state lines to buy insurance through
their national association at discounted rates.

What's the status of that bill? It seems reasonable to me.

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The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish
namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even
live in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)


Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits
you to a tee.


Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4
places in the
world to live year after year.


The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings
surveys.


Such as?


Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005



ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as
obviously reflected in their ratings.



Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in
the world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant.
The US no longer leads the pack in such important areas as
democracy, freedom of the press, lowest infant mortality rates,
availability of health care, et cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.



Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not
rate higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend
my entire afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all.


Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy
having everything feed to them in small portions.

Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can
see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.



If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get
an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic.


And, percentage of your income do you gladly give to your national and
provincial governments every year?


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