Ahh, but I said Gallow, not Gallows.

Interesting.

So is it Jim Gallows?


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
I thought I was.


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
I don't know, why don't you ask him.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:

I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in
Georgia
may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research
on this
guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the
goings
on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his
home
town.

What do you think Starbuck?



If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real*
Skipper's name, address, and telephone number......

--


I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck
to call him to find out.

I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck?

JimH,
I have no problems with anything you want to call me, feel free to use
Gallow, Gallows, Smithers, Starbuck or Skipper.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Ahh, but I said Gallow, not Gallows.

Interesting.

So is it Jim Gallows?


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
I thought I was.


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
I don't know, why don't you ask him.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:

I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in
Georgia
may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research
on this
guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the
goings
on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his
home
town.

What do you think Starbuck?



If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real*
Skipper's name, address, and telephone number......

--


I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck
to call him to find out.

I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck?

PS - If you want, you can even call me Kevin Noble.


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
I have no problems with anything you want to call me, feel free to use
Gallow, Gallows, Smithers, Starbuck or Skipper.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Ahh, but I said Gallow, not Gallows.

Interesting.

So is it Jim Gallows?


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
I thought I was.


"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message
...
JimH,
I don't know, why don't you ask him.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:

I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in
Georgia
may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research
on this
guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the
goings
on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his
home
town.

What do you think Starbuck?



If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the
*real*
Skipper's name, address, and telephone number......

--


I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck
to call him to find out.

I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck?

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...


Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.


Hah! Gene, many thanks for posting this. All these years watching "All in
the Family" and I could never understand or figure out the words of this
line when they sang it.

One of life's great mysteries --- SOLVED!

Eisboch

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:22:48 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:15:58 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:


in pursuit of left-wing-commie-pinko-fags...

Ahem - it's long haired hippy type pinko fags.

I mean come on.


For old farts......

Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.
Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.
And you know who you were then, girls were girls and men were men.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.
Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.
Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.
Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.
Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.
I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.


Lets see...one of Smithers's aliases...Archie Bunker!

Harry,
I notice you spend a lot of time obsessing about someone you say you ignore.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:22:48 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:15:58 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:


in pursuit of left-wing-commie-pinko-fags...

Ahem - it's long haired hippy type pinko fags.

I mean come on.


For old farts......

Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.
Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.
And you know who you were then, girls were girls and men were men.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.
Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.
Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.
Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.
Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.
I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.


Lets see...one of Smithers's aliases...Archie Bunker!



There apparently are strong suspicions that the turd known as Smithers is
in reality the turd who used to log on here with the real name of Jim
Gallow or Gallows. Whatever...you know the old saying, "A turd by any
other name still...stinks."

--


Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced
priorities.

*JimH* wrote:
You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the
Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post
about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to
have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never
privy to or aware of.

Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just
suspicions.

You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously
operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent.

So how is this for proof Chuck?

Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136

Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is
located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live
in Avon Lake, Ohio.

Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake,
Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake.

Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has
been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28
at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat.

I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the
times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you.

Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your
whopper of a lie about me.

Are you man enough Chuck?


I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I
have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird
style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it
appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost
*exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the
conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster.
Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is
one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning
whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did
all the time constituted a lie).

The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are
running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced
that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum
at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny
alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted
"trait".

On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings
with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he
couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous
statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be
impossible to learn through Google.

As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but
not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services
that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been
commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know,
but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired.

As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread
about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever
hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart
under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as
desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't
indicate ditzy squat as "proof".

As far as other instances where I could search the net and find
evidence of you posting at or around the same time as
psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were
on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-)

wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as
the
Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial
post
about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to
have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was
never
privy to or aware of.

Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just
suspicions.

You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously
operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent.

So how is this for proof Chuck?

Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136

Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user
is
located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I
live
in Avon Lake, Ohio.

Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon
Lake,
Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake.

Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay
has
been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on
9-28
at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat.

I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near
the
times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you.

Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your
whopper of a lie about me.

Are you man enough Chuck?


I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I
have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird
style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it
appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost
*exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the
conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster.
Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is
one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning
whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did
all the time constituted a lie).

The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are
running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced
that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum
at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny
alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted
"trait".

On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings
with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he
couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous
statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be
impossible to learn through Google.

As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but
not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services
that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been
commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know,
but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired.

As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread
about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever
hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart
under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as
desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't
indicate ditzy squat as "proof".

As far as other instances where I could search the net and find
evidence of you posting at or around the same time as
psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were
on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-)


You are a pathetic excuse of a man Chuck. You have lost any respect I once
had for you.

Either offer proof and explain how I can spoof and ISP and IP address or
apologize already. I am tired of your allegations based only on suspicion.

PS There is another thread today where I posted within minutes after
Skipper did. I have offered my *proof*.

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as
the
Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial
post
about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to
have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was
never
privy to or aware of.

Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just
suspicions.

You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously
operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent.

So how is this for proof Chuck?

Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136

Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user
is
located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I
live
in Avon Lake, Ohio.

Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon
Lake,
Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake.

Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay
has
been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on
9-28
at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat.

I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near
the
times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you.

Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your
whopper of a lie about me.

Are you man enough Chuck?


I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I
have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird
style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it
appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost
*exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the
conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster.
Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is
one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning
whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did
all the time constituted a lie).

The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are
running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced
that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum
at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny
alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted
"trait".

On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings
with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he
couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous
statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be
impossible to learn through Google.

As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but
not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services
that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been
commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know,
but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired.

As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread
about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever
hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart
under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as
desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't
indicate ditzy squat as "proof".

As far as other instances where I could search the net and find
evidence of you posting at or around the same time as
psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were
on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-)


You are a pathetic excuse of a man Chuck. You have lost any respect I once
had for you.

I wouldn't consider that much of a loss.

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting
as
the
Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's
initial
post
about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you
to
have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was
never
privy to or aware of.

Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just
suspicions.

You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously
operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent.

So how is this for proof Chuck?

Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136

Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the
user
is
located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I
live
in Avon Lake, Ohio.

Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon
Lake,
Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake.

Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the
"Delay
has
been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on
9-28
at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat.

I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near
the
times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you.

Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for
your
whopper of a lie about me.

Are you man enough Chuck?


I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I
have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird
style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it
appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost
*exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the
conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster.
Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is
one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning
whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did
all the time constituted a lie).

The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are
running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced
that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum
at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny
alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted
"trait".

On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings
with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he
couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous
statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be
impossible to learn through Google.

As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but
not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services
that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been
commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know,
but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired.

As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread
about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever
hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart
under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as
desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't
indicate ditzy squat as "proof".

As far as other instances where I could search the net and find
evidence of you posting at or around the same time as
psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were
on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-)


You are a pathetic excuse of a man Chuck. You have lost any respect I
once
had for you.
Either offer proof and explain how I can spoof and ISP and IP address or
apologize already. I am tired of your allegations based only on
suspicion.

PS There is another thread today where I posted within minutes after
Skipper did. I have offered my *proof*.




I wouldn't consider that much of a loss.


So why the hard on for me Chuckster? Why the sudden attack agenda? Has the
facade of the calm and cool Chuck Gould finally been lifted?

This is more than a misunderstanding on your part at this time. It is a
whopper of a lie that you continue with.

I await your apology.