Arrogant Worms have a sketch about a Mountie getting accosted by US tourists:

"Where do you keep all those guns?"
"In our tank."
"You have a tank??"
"We didn't WALK here!"
"Where did you get a tank?"
"Wal-Mart"

("The Mountie Song" from Live Bait)

Lloyd Sumpter

Oh oh. There's a career killer for Arrogant Worms. Sheryl Crow CD's were
banished from WalMart for a time due to a similar, one-line reference to the
chain.

Wal Mart admits to ordering record companies to rejacket CD's that they feel
feature graphic elements not consistent with "approved American values" (where
*is* Skipper these days, anyway?). Won't be long until they insist on the right
to censor content, too.

Actually, my previous statement is not quite correct. All they do is inform the
record companies why they feel they need to protect their customers from this
CD cover or that, and suggest how if the cover were changed they would be happy
to order 3-million copies for WalMart stores.
They can't really demand a change, just economically force one.

Gould 0738 wrote:

Arrogant Worms have a sketch about a Mountie getting accosted by US tourists:

"Where do you keep all those guns?"
"In our tank."
"You have a tank??"
"We didn't WALK here!"
"Where did you get a tank?"
"Wal-Mart"

("The Mountie Song" from Live Bait)

Lloyd Sumpter

Oh oh. There's a career killer for Arrogant Worms. Sheryl Crow CD's were
banished from WalMart for a time due to a similar, one-line reference to the
chain.

Wal Mart admits to ordering record companies to rejacket CD's that they feel
feature graphic elements not consistent with "approved American values" (where
*is* Skipper these days, anyway?). Won't be long until they insist on the right
to censor content, too.

Actually, my previous statement is not quite correct. All they do is inform the
record companies why they feel they need to protect their customers from this
CD cover or that, and suggest how if the cover were changed they would be happy
to order 3-million copies for WalMart stores.
They can't really demand a change, just economically force one.

I'm waiting for an interesting expose on Wal-Mart's pharmacies.



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Steve,
I understand your point and you're right, clothes and electronics are
very hard to buy American. Perhaps at this rate we'll no longer be able to
buy anything American because we'll mostly be out of work Dell is now out
sourcing it's help line to India, seems there is no end in sight.
Paul

"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...

What you say is true, but isn't it also the American way to buy
American? If we buy foreign, won't we have to match the wages paid to
foreign workers to stay competitive. What kind of Texan would do well on
a
staple diet of rice? What kind of boat could you afford with the
competitor's wages? It's nice to get the cheapest price, but what will
it
do
to America in the long run. I'll pay more to support my neighbor's job.
I
hope he'll support mine.
Paul

Go through your house. Toss everything that is not all 100% US made.
Write
back and tell us what you have left. Even a lot of parts you have on your
"American" Chevy or Ford were made out of the US. Don't forget those.

Steve

-v-,
Somebody else opening a store at that point is like trying to go into
the car business today, DeLorian tried a couple others as well but it's hard
to compete against the big boys. Probably the only exception are those
intended for a small, rich, nitch market. The thing is can you match the
foreign labor rates to compete?
Paul

"-v-" wrote in message
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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
Chuck,
Correct, after they corner the market, they can charge what ever
they
like, they'll be no more competitors left.
Paul

Then somebody else will open another store. Its not like there is a
limited
supply of stores that can ever be opened.

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:54:02 -0500, (RJ) wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
My point was that WalMart
grew as big as it is because it satisfied shoppers. When a better or
more interesting concept comes along, it will grow at the expense of
WalMart.

That's what's so odd: There IS no concept at Wal Mart. :-) If you believe
there is, can you describe or name it?

A store with most of the mundane things you need day to day to run your
household. One stop to buy a wide variety of things. Open late, as
much as 24/7. How is that not a concept?

Yes! I shop Walmart mostly after midnight. It is the only place open when
I am able to shop during the busy season which has nearly all the things
I need, at prices much lower than other 24 hour stores.

Last time I was there, I bought groceries, some work shirts, and a stand
fan for my welding shop. The latter (same Chinese made fan) was $199 in
the MSC catalog, $99 in the Harbor Freight sale catalog, and $69 off the
shelf at the local Walmart. I can't ignore that sort of price difference, or
the immediacy and convenience of getting it when I need it.

Walmart doesn't sell everything I need, and it doesn't always have the
best price, but it has many of the things I need, the prices are always
reasonable (sometimes exceptional, see fan), and it is *open* when I
have time to shop. The latter is one of the most important factors to me.

I stopped shopping at the downtown stores about 25 years ago. They
were never open when it was convenient for me to shop, parking was
always a hassle, and their prices were always high. Mail order, and
Walmart, have been the solution to all of those issues.

As far as what Walmart pays its employees, Walmart isn't holding a
gun to their heads and forcing them to work at Walmart. Last I looked,
this is still a free country. If people don't think Walmart pays them a
fair wage, they don't have to work there. We're always begging for
farm labor, and there's a chronic shortage of construction laborers.
It isn't light work in a clean air conditioned box store, but no one is
guaranteed a high paying job as a box store clerk.

Gary

Paul Schilter wrote:

Steve,
I understand your point and you're right, clothes and electronics are
very hard to buy American.

Why would it be important to do so?
Nativist/protectionist sentiment is a bad thing.

Perhaps at this rate we'll no longer be able to
buy anything American because we'll mostly be out of work Dell is now out
sourcing it's help line to India, seems there is no end in sight.
Paul

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:OZOxb.38764$kl6.30627@fed1read03...

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...


What you say is true, but isn't it also the American way to buy
American? If we buy foreign, won't we have to match the wages paid to
foreign workers to stay competitive. What kind of Texan would do well on

a

staple diet of rice? What kind of boat could you afford with the
competitor's wages? It's nice to get the cheapest price, but what will

it

do

to America in the long run. I'll pay more to support my neighbor's job.

I

hope he'll support mine.
Paul

Go through your house. Toss everything that is not all 100% US made.

Write

back and tell us what you have left. Even a lot of parts you have on your
"American" Chevy or Ford were made out of the US. Don't forget those.

Steve

Jonathan Ball wrote:

Paul Schilter wrote:

Steve,
I understand your point and you're right, clothes and electronics are
very hard to buy American.

Why would it be important to do so?
Nativist/protectionist sentiment is a bad thing.

You don't think it important to have manufacturing capabilities?
You think this nation will survive when the only jobs available are at
Wal-Mart or as a software pussy?

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Harry Krause wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:


Paul Schilter wrote:


Steve,
I understand your point and you're right, clothes and electronics are
very hard to buy American.

Why would it be important to do so?
Nativist/protectionist sentiment is a bad thing.


You don't think it important to have manufacturing capabilities?

No. Switzerland doesn't manufacture cars, aircraft,
ships, consumer electronics, or much of anything else.
The Swiss live enviable lives and lifestyles.

You think this nation will survive when the only jobs available are at
Wal-Mart or as a software pussy?

Those won't be the only jobs. You are wrong to think
so; you demonstrate you don't know anything about
economics.

Not having much manufacturing capability doesn't seem
to be hurting the Swiss too much.

If you were able to think it through, which you plainly
are not, you would see that all jobs are service jobs.

Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, just make sure that adequate
competition remains in the retail field.


That very goose survives, in part, because of past actions to break up
mega-powerful corporations. Standard Oil, US Steel, AT&T, etc.

The free enterprise system thrives on competition. When a single entity becomes
so dominant in any field that it can dictate (rather than the marketplace
dictate) the entry conditions for competitors that free enterprise system is at
risk.