Charles wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:


You *really* are a corporate whore, Karen.


This quote from the Microsoft and Merc Optimax corporate whore.

-- Charlie


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I accept his personal abuse as confirmation they have no actual rejoinder.

They will do most anything save admit what they're about is limiting
your free choice. When govts start employing what??? 1 in 7??? of all
state workers, what's really happened is you right to choose all sorts
of things has been stolen.


K

"K Smith" wrote in message
...

Gould 0738 wrote:
Our jobs are going overseas because
our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending
jobs overseas.


Our jobs are going overseas faster than they would have partially
because
WALMART is so super aggressive in their buying.

It's directly on behalf of you the consumer, you don't "have" to buy
any particular thing; however they do "allow" you the choice. I know in
a socialist dream system free choice is to be crushed at every
opportunity, but you haven't got that far yet & hopefully never
will.........

Oh no. Who opened the crypt and let the mummy out again? :-)

Doug Kanter wrote:

"K Smith" wrote in message
...

Gould 0738 wrote:
Our jobs are going overseas because
our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending
jobs overseas.


Our jobs are going overseas faster than they would have partially
because
WALMART is so super aggressive in their buying.

It's directly on behalf of you the consumer, you don't "have" to buy
any particular thing; however they do "allow" you the choice. I know in
a socialist dream system free choice is to be crushed at every
opportunity, but you haven't got that far yet & hopefully never
will.........

Oh no. Who opened the crypt and let the mummy out again? :-)


I'll be she was awakened by a kiss from Wally.






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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Oh no. Who opened the crypt and let the mummy out again? :-)


I'll be she was awakened by a kiss from Wally.


ROFL!!!! Oxygen....quick! :-)

Gould 0738 wrote:

Our jobs are going overseas because
our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending
jobs overseas.



Our jobs are going overseas faster than they would have partially because
WALMART is so super aggressive in their buying. When they want to carry
toasters, for example, they invite all the major manufacturers of toasters down
to Arkansas and pit them against one another. During the last cost cutting
cycle, everybody who wanted to sell anyhing to WALMART *had* to go to China for
labor or lose out.

Welcome to free market 101. Competition is what sets prices.


WALMART doesn't tell a mfg that they *must* build in China- only that if they
can't meet or beat the price of those who do they are, effectively, out of
business starting next month.

They can always sell to Sears, Or any of the other thriving store
chains.



What will the next sacrifice be? Quality?

Probably. Quality is usually the first thing trimmed when further costs
reductions become impractical.


Or, when WALMART can no longer increase profits by forcing suppliers to cheaper
sources of labor, will WALMART raise prices? Will we soon be paying as much as
we used to pay for a US built, item but buying stuff from China instead?

That's the way the market works.



WALMART's vision for America is a place where a $9 an hour job, with no
benefits, is a *great* opportunity. They envision a country where obedient
workers volunteer
to work off the clock every week, and where all will shop a the "company
store."

In Walmart's world, there is no middle class. Unless $9 an hour, with a few
extra hours thrown in unpaid every week, is going to be the new "middle class."

The problem is that this "model" will not support continued consumption
of their store goods. $9 an hour people are not buying home theatre
systems, DVD's, big screen TV's, major appliances, electronic widgets
etc. If this truly becomes the new "middle class", then Wal-Mart is in
for a shock, and will be forced to cut prices further.


In Walmart's World, there are some opportunities for better income. If you're
willing to work 50-51 weeks a year, 12-18 hours a day, 6-7 days a week, you can
eventually rise to "store manager" and approach 6-figures a year. :-(

Welcome to retail. This is nothing new. Why treat it as such?


One of the great hypocrisies of the WalMart culture is the great emphasis on
quality "family" experiences. How many of the managers working 80 hours a week
or more have any quality time left to spend with the family? How many of the
people earing $9 an hour get to go home after work, rather than to the
second,part time job they need to pay basic living expenses?

So how many Wal-Mart managers do you know?

Dave

Amen!

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Our jobs are going overseas because
our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending
jobs overseas.



Our jobs are going overseas faster than they would have partially because
WALMART is so super aggressive in their buying. When they want to carry
toasters, for example, they invite all the major manufacturers of toasters
down
to Arkansas and pit them against one another. During the last cost cutting
cycle, everybody who wanted to sell anyhing to WALMART *had* to go to
China for
labor or lose out.

WALMART doesn't tell a mfg that they *must* build in China- only that if
they
can't meet or beat the price of those who do they are, effectively, out of
business starting next month.

What will the next sacrifice be? Quality?
Or, when WALMART can no longer increase profits by forcing suppliers to
cheaper
sources of labor, will WALMART raise prices? Will we soon be paying as
much as
we used to pay for a US built, item but buying stuff from China instead?

WALMART's vision for America is a place where a $9 an hour job, with no
benefits, is a *great* opportunity. They envision a country where obedient
workers volunteer
to work off the clock every week, and where all will shop a the "company
store."

In Walmart's world, there is no middle class. Unless $9 an hour, with a
few
extra hours thrown in unpaid every week, is going to be the new "middle
class."

In Walmart's World, there are some opportunities for better income. If
you're
willing to work 50-51 weeks a year, 12-18 hours a day, 6-7 days a week,
you can
eventually rise to "store manager" and approach 6-figures a year. :-(

One of the great hypocrisies of the WalMart culture is the great emphasis
on
quality "family" experiences. How many of the managers working 80 hours a
week
or more have any quality time left to spend with the family? How many of
the
people earing $9 an hour get to go home after work, rather than to the
second,part time job they need to pay basic living expenses?

jchaplain wrote:


Please spread this word around, it's for our own good.

Cheers!
Jeff

Let me be the first to say NO to Walmart. I will go and scream it at their
front door.

I will, however, continue to shop there.

Steve

I'm with Steve on this. Reason being is that Walmart is only one of
the many many companies in the US that do this.
I worked at General Electric Aircraft Engine supplier companies and
GE buyers are *******s the way they treat the suppliers. Are you not
going to fly or buy lightbulbs?
Its the whole republican support the corporation screw the working
guy thing that needs to be fought. Our jobs are going overseas because
our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending
jobs overseas.


And just how are they supposed to accomplish this without interfering in
free market trade? The economy has become global, like it or not. Unless
you are in favor of total isolationism (which would be
counterproductive), you cannot force companies to not utilize foreign
labor, especially if they sell in foreign markets. Remember, for every
"protectionist" policy that our government might pass to "protect"
American workers, another foreign country can pass their own version to
counter ours. Do we want a piece of the world market? Then we have to
play nicely with the other kids.

As for republicans not caring about American jobs, who signed NAFTA?

Dave