On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:20:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 2:05 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:10:53 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 9:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:40:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 2:10 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to get it done and over with.

Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.* So far, so good.

Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still
needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me
sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve.


I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in
the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a
day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been
almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still
masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our
hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when
we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am,
when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past
week; tables were at least 10' apart.

If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the
shot?

===

The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and
Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're
not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the
population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June
at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions.

Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country
may never get vaccinated.
How much are you going to give up to keep them safe?

===

67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would
greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33%
who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will
contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire
immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene
pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a
common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox
vaccination was common 70 years ago.


Fretwell's naive libertarianism is creeping out. I agree that proof of
vaccination should be a requirement.

This is strange from a guy who thinks proof of citizenship shouldn't
be necessary to vote. It is harder to check out a library book than it
is to vote.
BTW it is going to be your liberal friends at the ACLU that fights a
Covid ID law. Blacks and Latinos are some of the strongest opponents
to this vaccine. They keep pointing out Tuskegee.


This is not a Tuskegee offense. We want everyone vaccinated. Even
libertarians.

You are not trying to convince me. I am just repeating things I hear
people of color say on TV.
I would get the shot if they made it easy. I knew this was going to be
a cluster****. We trusted the government to do it.


The "government" did a fine job for me. It announced an internet and
phone sign up system, I logged on, got an appointment, got vaccinated. I
assume as soon as the shots are in plentiful supply and don't need
special refrigeration (the next generation for all of them), it'll be a
walk-in to your local pharmacy, as it is for many other vaccinations.
Don't want to get vaccinated? Stay the **** home...

What about those poor folks for whom getting an ID to vote is far too onerous.
Should they just 'stay the **** home'? You're a racist, Krause!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:16:35 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 2:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:09:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:10:33 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to get it done and over with.

Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.Â* So far, so good.

Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still
needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me
sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve.


I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in
the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a
day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been
almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still
masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our
hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when
we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am,
when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past
week; tables were at least 10' apart.

If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the
shot?

===

The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and
Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're
not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the
population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June
at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions.

Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country
may never get vaccinated.
How much are you going to give up to keep them safe?

===

67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would
greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33%
who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will
contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire
immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene
pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a
common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox
vaccination was common 70 years ago.

CDC reports that 20% have had at least one shot and about 12% have had
both (or the JJ)
Considering they are not planning to do the kids until they do more
studies and pregnant women may want to avoid it, that is actually a
higher number of eligible people.

I got an Email from the county saying my name came up for the shot at
RSW but when I tried to schedule it they said they were sold out until
April. I guess I am just going to die ;-)

As for the Covid passport, I doubt we will put up with the stuff they
did 70 years ago.


What stuff was that?

Warrantless wire taps, Prayer in school, Cops beating a confession out
of you without allowing you to call a lawyer, Dress Codes, Jim Crow.
Take your pick. The government defined personal freedoms down in the
40s and 50s.
We started to assert personal rights in the 60s and we have come a
long way on a lot of fronts. We are right to buck when they start
infringing on freedom ... even if it is the freedom to kill yourself
doing dumb ****.


And freedom from having to be near disease carriers who refuse
vaccinations.

You don't have to be near anyone. Stay home if you are that scared.

OTOH you had your shots, you should be safe if anything we have heard
is true.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:20:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 2:05 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:10:53 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 9:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:40:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 2:10 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to get it done and over with.

Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.Â* So far, so good.

Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still
needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me
sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve.


I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in
the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a
day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been
almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still
masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our
hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when
we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am,
when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past
week; tables were at least 10' apart.

If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the
shot?

===

The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and
Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're
not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the
population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June
at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions.

Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country
may never get vaccinated.
How much are you going to give up to keep them safe?

===

67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would
greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33%
who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will
contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire
immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene
pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a
common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox
vaccination was common 70 years ago.


Fretwell's naive libertarianism is creeping out. I agree that proof of
vaccination should be a requirement.

This is strange from a guy who thinks proof of citizenship shouldn't
be necessary to vote. It is harder to check out a library book than it
is to vote.
BTW it is going to be your liberal friends at the ACLU that fights a
Covid ID law. Blacks and Latinos are some of the strongest opponents
to this vaccine. They keep pointing out Tuskegee.


This is not a Tuskegee offense. We want everyone vaccinated. Even
libertarians.

You are not trying to convince me. I am just repeating things I hear
people of color say on TV.
I would get the shot if they made it easy. I knew this was going to be
a cluster****. We trusted the government to do it.


The "government" did a fine job for me. It announced an internet and
phone sign up system, I logged on, got an appointment, got vaccinated. I
assume as soon as the shots are in plentiful supply and don't need
special refrigeration (the next generation for all of them), it'll be a
walk-in to your local pharmacy, as it is for many other vaccinations.
Don't want to get vaccinated? Stay the **** home...

If you are so insecure about the efficacy of your vaccine, maybe you
should be the one staying home.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:44:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 12:38 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/15/21 2:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:09:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:10:33 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and
I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The
local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens
Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt
a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore
arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm
ready to get it done and over with.

Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.Â* So far, so good.

Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still
needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me
sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve.


I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in
the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a
day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been
almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still
masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our
hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when
we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am,
when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past
week; tables were at least 10' apart.

If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the
shot?

===

The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and
Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're
not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the
population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June
at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions.

Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country
may never get vaccinated.
How much are you going to give up to keep them safe?

===

67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would
greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33%
who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will
contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire
immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene
pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a
common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox
vaccination was common 70 years ago.

CDC reports that 20% have had at least one shot and about 12% have had
both (or the JJ)
Considering they are not planning to do the kids until they do more
studies and pregnant women may want to avoid it, that is actually a
higher number of eligible people.

I got an Email from the county saying my name came up for the shot at
RSW but when I tried to schedule it they said they were sold out until
April. I guess I am just going to die ;-)

As for the Covid passport, I doubt we will put up with the stuff they
did 70 years ago.


What stuff was that?

Warrantless wire taps, Prayer in school, Cops beating a confession out
of you without allowing you to call a lawyer, Dress Codes, Jim Crow.
Take your pick. The government defined personal freedoms down in the
40s and 50s.
We started to assert personal rights in the 60s and we have come a
long way on a lot of fronts. We are right to buck when they start
infringing on freedom ... even if it is the freedom to kill yourself
doing dumb ****.


And freedom from having to be near disease carriers who refuse
vaccinations.


Maybe it will be he new Darwin.


Those who refuse to get vaccinated should infect each other, die, and
thereby improve the gene pool. Apparently that will be going on in
Florida the next two weeks at the beachfront areas...Spring Break.

It didn't happen last year. The Gulf Coast beaches were some of the
areas with the lowest infection rates in the state. Our problems were
in those areas where the hot spot dwellers from the Acela corridor
spend the winter. (Palm Beach, Broward and Miami/Dade).
It is still where most of our infections are. Those are not
traditional Spring Break areas, particularly since Ft Lauderdale went
to war on Spring Break.

https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/op...2a615dc7837c86

On 3/15/21 6:40 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:16:35 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 2:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:09:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:10:33 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to get it done and over with.

Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.Â* So far, so good.

Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still
needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me
sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve.


I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in
the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a
day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been
almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still
masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our
hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when
we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am,
when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past
week; tables were at least 10' apart.

If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the
shot?

===

The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and
Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're
not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the
population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June
at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions.

Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country
may never get vaccinated.
How much are you going to give up to keep them safe?

===

67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would
greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33%
who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will
contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire
immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene
pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a
common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox
vaccination was common 70 years ago.

CDC reports that 20% have had at least one shot and about 12% have had
both (or the JJ)
Considering they are not planning to do the kids until they do more
studies and pregnant women may want to avoid it, that is actually a
higher number of eligible people.

I got an Email from the county saying my name came up for the shot at
RSW but when I tried to schedule it they said they were sold out until
April. I guess I am just going to die ;-)

As for the Covid passport, I doubt we will put up with the stuff they
did 70 years ago.


What stuff was that?

Warrantless wire taps, Prayer in school, Cops beating a confession out
of you without allowing you to call a lawyer, Dress Codes, Jim Crow.
Take your pick. The government defined personal freedoms down in the
40s and 50s.
We started to assert personal rights in the 60s and we have come a
long way on a lot of fronts. We are right to buck when they start
infringing on freedom ... even if it is the freedom to kill yourself
doing dumb ****.


And freedom from having to be near disease carriers who refuse
vaccinations.

You don't have to be near anyone. Stay home if you are that scared.

OTOH you had your shots, you should be safe if anything we have heard
is true.



Apparently you are not paying attention to the actual doctors and
scientists. The vaccinations likely will prevent you from being
hospitalized and dying, but you can still contract the virus. Why take
chances you don't have to take. We're careful and avoid crowds and
populated places...which is why I visit the supermarket early in the
morning when the stores are relatively empty.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 21:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 6:40 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:16:35 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/21 2:02 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:09:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/21 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:10:33 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to get it done and over with.

Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.Â* So far, so good.

Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still
needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me
sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve.


I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in
the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a
day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been
almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still
masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our
hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when
we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am,
when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past
week; tables were at least 10' apart.

If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the
shot?

===

The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and
Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're
not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the
population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June
at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions.

Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country
may never get vaccinated.
How much are you going to give up to keep them safe?

===

67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would
greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33%
who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will
contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire
immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene
pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a
common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox
vaccination was common 70 years ago.

CDC reports that 20% have had at least one shot and about 12% have had
both (or the JJ)
Considering they are not planning to do the kids until they do more
studies and pregnant women may want to avoid it, that is actually a
higher number of eligible people.

I got an Email from the county saying my name came up for the shot at
RSW but when I tried to schedule it they said they were sold out until
April. I guess I am just going to die ;-)

As for the Covid passport, I doubt we will put up with the stuff they
did 70 years ago.


What stuff was that?

Warrantless wire taps, Prayer in school, Cops beating a confession out
of you without allowing you to call a lawyer, Dress Codes, Jim Crow.
Take your pick. The government defined personal freedoms down in the
40s and 50s.
We started to assert personal rights in the 60s and we have come a
long way on a lot of fronts. We are right to buck when they start
infringing on freedom ... even if it is the freedom to kill yourself
doing dumb ****.


And freedom from having to be near disease carriers who refuse
vaccinations.

You don't have to be near anyone. Stay home if you are that scared.

OTOH you had your shots, you should be safe if anything we have heard
is true.



Apparently you are not paying attention to the actual doctors and
scientists. The vaccinations likely will prevent you from being
hospitalized and dying, but you can still contract the virus. Why take
chances you don't have to take. We're careful and avoid crowds and
populated places...which is why I visit the supermarket early in the
morning when the stores are relatively empty.

If you are scared, keep hiding.

On 3/12/2021 8:56 PM, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were
able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week.Â* The local
appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens
Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little
funky.Â* Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still
with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April.Â* I'm ready to
get it done and over with.


Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.Â* So far, so good.

Received the second Moderna dose Saturday morning. Felt fine other than
the typical sore arm for the rest of the day.

Woke up next morning (Sunday) and had a sense of low energy. Didn't feel
100%. By early afternoon I developed teeth chattering chills and a dull
headache but they only lasted a hour or so. Monday I felt 100 percent
again.

Mrs.E. received first Moderna Sunday. Sore arm only so far. Second dose
scheduled in April.

My daughter received her first Moderna dose yesterday because she works
for a agency providing aid to disadvantaged and homeless. She developed
a severe reaction in her arm and the EMT required her to wait for almost
an hour in the "observation" area instead of the regular 15 minutes.

My grandson's fiance is a nurse working in a hospital emergency room.
A woman was brought in who tested positive for corvid-19 and was
obviously mentally ill. She was screaming at everyone and had to be
restrained with straps on the gurney.

She spit at my grandson's fiance and even with a facemask and
mask, it got in her eye. She had been fully vaccinated but is still
going to be in isolated quarantine for 14 days.

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On 3/13/2021 11:46 PM, Alex wrote:
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On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 8:56:39 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
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They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were
able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local
appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens
Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a
little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but
it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to
get it done and over with.
Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago. So far, so good.
Report back tomorrow about your experience.Â* It'll be interesting, at
least to me.Â* I'm back to normal.

Only some minor soreness in the injection sight when I woke up.Â* I think
the flu shot was worse.Â* Nothing now.Â* The 2nd dose is supposed to be
worse but it affects everyone differently.



I had Moderna. No reaction to first dose other than slight sore arm.
Second dose was different. Definite reaction the next day but didn't
last long.

When I got the second dose the nurse advised that the reaction to it
would likely be stronger than the first.



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On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 21:03:22 -0400, Keyser wrote:On 3/15/21 6:40 PM, wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:16:35 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/15/21 2:02 AM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:09:38 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/14/21 9:20 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:10:33 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:52 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 23:52:27 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:41:03 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:12:42 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/12/21 10:00 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:56:32 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week. The local appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens Pharmacy about an hour away. Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little funky. Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still with her, and is apparently worse than mine was. The second dose is coming up the first week of April. I'm ready to get it done and over with. Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago. So far, so good. Lee County sent me an Email a couple days ago and asked if I still needed my shot so I may be getting close. I hope it doesn't make me sick. I don't have time for that ****. These people would starve. I've had both Moderna shots. First one just gave me a bit of soreness in the upper arm at the vacc site. Second one made me a little drowsy for a day. Wife felt a bit nauseous for a day after second shot. It's been almost two weeks since my second shot. No lasting side effects. Still masking up when we go out, keeping away from other peeps, sanitizing our hands with the spray bottles we keep with us, and washing our hands when we get home. I visit the supermarket when needed between 7 and 8 am, when it is least crowded. We did visit a local Thai restaurant this past week; tables were at least 10' apart. If you are still acting like you did last year, why bother with the shot? === The shots are not infallible, about 95% effective for the Moderna and Pfizer. That certainly improves your safety a great deal but we're not totally out of the woods until some large percentage of the population gets vaccinated. That's not going to happen until May/June at best. Until then it pays to take reasonable precautions. Using that logic, it will never be safe because a third of the country may never get vaccinated. How much are you going to give up to keep them safe? === 67% would be a huge improvement from where we are now and would greatly reduce the risk for people who *are* vaccinated. Of the 33% who aren't, some will eventually fall into line, and some will contract Covid. Of those who contract Covid, some will acquire immunity that way, and others will eliminate themselves from the gene pool. I think that eventually "proof of vaccination" will become a common requirement for many activities, just like proof of small pox vaccination was common 70 years ago. CDC reports that 20% have had at least one shot and about 12% have had both (or the JJ) Considering they are not planning to do the kids until they do more studies and pregnant women may want to avoid it, that is actually a higher number of eligible people. I got an Email from the county saying my name came up for the shot at RSW but when I tried to schedule it they said they were sold out until April. I guess I am just going to die ;-) As for the Covid passport, I doubt we will put up with the stuff they did 70 years ago. What stuff was that? Warrantless wire taps, Prayer in school, Cops beating a confession out of you without allowing you to call a lawyer, Dress Codes, Jim Crow. Take your pick. The government defined personal freedoms down in the 40s and 50s. We started to assert personal rights in the 60s and we have come a long way on a lot of fronts. We are right to buck when they start infringing on freedom ... even if it is the freedom to kill yourself doing dumb ****. And freedom from having to be near disease carriers who refuse vaccinations. You don't have to be near anyone. Stay home if you are that scared. OTOH you had your shots, you should be safe if anything we have heard is true. Apparently you are not paying attention to the actual doctors and scientists. The vaccinations likely will prevent you from being hospitalized and dying, but you can still contract the virus. Why take chances you don't have to take. We're careful and avoid crowds and populated places...which is why I visit the supermarket early in the morning when the stores are relatively empty.If you are scared, keep hiding.

He's always been a hider and a scaredy cat. Covid is just his
latest fear.
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 04:54:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/12/2021 8:56 PM, Alex wrote:

wrote:
They lowered the age requirement in our state, so my wife and I were
able to get our vaccines on Tuesday of this week.* The local
appointments were taken, but I was able to get us in at a Walgreens
Pharmacy about an hour away.

Yesterday I had a slightly sore arm, a dull headache and felt a little
funky.* Today I feel fine. My wife just had a sore arm but it's still
with her, and is apparently worse than mine was.

The second dose is coming up the first week of April.* I'm ready to
get it done and over with.


Got my first Pfizer shot today about 10 hours ago.* So far, so good.

Received the second Moderna dose Saturday morning. Felt fine other than
the typical sore arm for the rest of the day.

Woke up next morning (Sunday) and had a sense of low energy. Didn't feel
100%. By early afternoon I developed teeth chattering chills and a dull
headache but they only lasted a hour or so. Monday I felt 100 percent
again.

Mrs.E. received first Moderna Sunday. Sore arm only so far. Second dose
scheduled in April.

My daughter received her first Moderna dose yesterday because she works
for a agency providing aid to disadvantaged and homeless. She developed
a severe reaction in her arm and the EMT required her to wait for almost
an hour in the "observation" area instead of the regular 15 minutes.

My grandson's fiance is a nurse working in a hospital emergency room.
A woman was brought in who tested positive for corvid-19 and was
obviously mentally ill. She was screaming at everyone and had to be
restrained with straps on the gurney.

She spit at my grandson's fiance and even with a facemask and
mask, it got in her eye. She had been fully vaccinated but is still
going to be in isolated quarantine for 14 days.

Hope it turns out to be a false alarm.
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