On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:24:54 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:28:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


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On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a

Lake city is mil spec stuff.

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How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it
brass plated steel? Somethings fishy.

You are right. I didn't see that.
.....

They said it’s reloadable and boxer , not berdan primed. So,

But the finish is off?

I did more looking and the NATO M-80 spec allows a copper jacket or a
BiMetal jacket. The cases are brass.

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If they will attract a magnet there must be some steel somewhere.

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
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I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

Sparks.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

#3 is the reason given at Sharpshooters. I was shooting some Tula 9mm when the guy came out and told
me I couldn't shoot it. I asked how he knew it had steel in it. His response, "I could see the
sparks when the bullet hit the floor." Good enough for me.

John H
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#3 is the reason given at Sharpshooters. I was shooting some Tula 9mm when the guy came out and told
me I couldn't shoot it. I asked how he knew it had steel in it. His response, "I could see the
sparks when the bullet hit the floor." Good enough for me.

.........

I can do nderstand a steel bullet, I thought they were talking about maybe something in the brass castings. Some alloy or something like that...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
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#3 is the reason given at Sharpshooters. I was shooting some Tula 9mm when the guy came out and told
me I couldn't shoot it. I asked how he knew it had steel in it. His response, "I could see the
sparks when the bullet hit the floor." Good enough for me.

........

I can do nderstand a steel bullet, I thought they were talking about maybe something in the brass castings. Some alloy or something like that...

The thing is, the folks at the range don't know if the steel is in the case or the bullet. They're
not going to take apart the rounds to see where the steel is, so they just disallow the ammo.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:11:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a

Lake city is mil spec stuff.

===

How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it
brass plated steel? Somethings fishy.

If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).

I doubt you are shooting a .308 indoors anyway.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

They assume steel is tougher on the backstop

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:40:19 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:24:54 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:28:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


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On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a

Lake city is mil spec stuff.

===

How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it
brass plated steel? Somethings fishy.

You are right. I didn't see that.
.....

They said it’s reloadable and boxer , not berdan primed. So,

But the finish is off?

I did more looking and the NATO M-80 spec allows a copper jacket or a
BiMetal jacket. The cases are brass.

===

If they will attract a magnet there must be some steel somewhere.

BiMetal (bullet jackets) are a soft steel alloy. I have some pictures
around here where I pulled one and scratched it up. They are pretty
soft for "steel" but it is still supposed to be tougher on the bore.
Barrel life is degraded after 4,000-5,000 rounds, roughly equal to
10,000 rounds or more as tested in an AR-15. Slower bullets have less
effect. For folks like Harry who sells his guns every year or so, it
is insignificant.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.