On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

Sparks.

Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts.

On 8/1/2018 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.



I don't know. The range I used to belong to banned them in the indoor
range as well. They had an elaborate, noisy, heavy duty exhaust system
in the room that had to be on whenever anyone
was shooting to get rid of the gun smoke and vapors. The indoor range
was electronically monitored with sensors as well that would sound an
alarm if residual levels rose above a certain amount. I was told that
the potential of sparks from steel jacketed ammo was the major concern.

On 8/1/2018 1:50 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

Sparks.

Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts.



The indoor range I described in a previous post that had exhaust fans,
etc. was eventually closed due to concern of a spark causing a fire or
worse.

On 8/1/18 1:43 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:11:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a

Lake city is mil spec stuff.

===

How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it
brass plated steel? Somethings fishy.

If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).

I doubt you are shooting a .308 indoors anyway.


One of the local indoor ranges has some 50-yard lanes and allows 308s.
I'd be wearing earplugs and muffs if I were there during that, though.

Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

They want reloadable brass to sell or scrap for $$.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:16:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/1/2018 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.



I don't know. The range I used to belong to banned them in the indoor
range as well. They had an elaborate, noisy, heavy duty exhaust system
in the room that had to be on whenever anyone
was shooting to get rid of the gun smoke and vapors. The indoor range
was electronically monitored with sensors as well that would sound an
alarm if residual levels rose above a certain amount. I was told that
the potential of sparks from steel jacketed ammo was the major concern.

As a guy who had my own range in the basement, I can say, the
ventilation was to get rid of the lead. I had 2 big "gate blowers"
from a 4341 in the trap and when I changed the filters they were full
of powdered lead. I always kept cardboard in front of the throat to
hold the lead dust and jacket material in. It also gave you an easy
place to hang your targets. A 3800 paper box, opened up was perfect so
I had an unending supply. I changed them every day I shot.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:17:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/1/2018 1:50 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

Sparks.

Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts.



The indoor range I described in a previous post that had exhaust fans,
etc. was eventually closed due to concern of a spark causing a fire or
worse.

Again, if you have muzzle blasts going off all day, what in the hell
will a spark do? Have you ever shot a gun in the dark? Flame shoots
out of the barrel several inches for a .22 rifle and a handgun will
shoot a blast of flame worthy of a 4th of July celebration. A short
..357 will shoot a dragon's breath of flame 5 feet or more.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:43:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:11:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a

Lake city is mil spec stuff.

===

How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it
brass plated steel? Somethings fishy.

If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).

I doubt you are shooting a .308 indoors anyway.

It's the largest allowed at the range.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:44:26 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

They assume steel is tougher on the backstop

According to the range folks, they worry about sparks.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:49:49 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.

Wrong. Steel sparks when hitting concrete. They worry about the sparks.