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From where come Chicago's Guns?
On 11/26/17 7:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. Your synapses are misfiring again. Never said what you claimed. What I did say is that I am not in favor of private, for-profit prisons. You're quite the trip, constantly mis-stating what I post or think. |
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#3
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From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:19:10 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 11/26/17 7:05 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. Your synapses are misfiring again. Never said what you claimed. What I did say is that I am not in favor of private, for-profit prisons. You're quite the trip, constantly mis-stating what I post or think. Try to stay on topic and it will be a lot easier. We were talking about "broken Windows" and "stop and frisk" |
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#4
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From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 6:05:46 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. FWIW, In George Ryan's reign, Illinois tried that and lost badly. They built prisons all over the place until funding ran out. Lots of corruption in the building/bidding process. The state lost badly in the financial dept. a lot of prisons were halted before they started. raw materials just sat where they were put. When scrap got high people were stealing the rusty girders and selling them for scrap. At least somebody got some use out of it... |
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#5
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From where come Chicago's Guns?
On 11/26/17 9:10 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 6:05:46 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. FWIW, In George Ryan's reign, Illinois tried that and lost badly. They built prisons all over the place until funding ran out. Lots of corruption in the building/bidding process. The state lost badly in the financial dept. a lot of prisons were halted before they started. raw materials just sat where they were put. When scrap got high people were stealing the rusty girders and selling them for scrap. At least somebody got some use out of it... Were those new prisons necessary? |
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#6
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From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:49:09 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/26/17 9:10 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 6:05:46 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws.. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders.. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. FWIW, In George Ryan's reign, Illinois tried that and lost badly. They built prisons all over the place until funding ran out. Lots of corruption in the building/bidding process. The state lost badly in the financial dept.. a lot of prisons were halted before they started. raw materials just sat where they were put. When scrap got high people were stealing the rusty girders and selling them for scrap. At least somebody got some use out of it.... Were those new prisons necessary? George Ryan thought so. |
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#7
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From where come Chicago's Guns?
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/26/17 9:10 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 6:05:46 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. FWIW, In George Ryan's reign, Illinois tried that and lost badly. They built prisons all over the place until funding ran out. Lots of corruption in the building/bidding process. The state lost badly in the financial dept. a lot of prisons were halted before they started. raw materials just sat where they were put. When scrap got high people were stealing the rusty girders and selling them for scrap. At least somebody got some use out of it... Were those new prisons necessary? According to you they were. |
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