On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:54:03 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the

private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is

fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool.

Wow Harry, I didn't think that you of all people would endorse needless bloodshed...

On 2/17/14, 4:25 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:54:03 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the

private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is

fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool.

Wow Harry, I didn't think that you of all people would endorse needless bloodshed...


I'm not convinced that getting rid of ammo hoarders would be
"needless..."

On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:19:15 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 4:25 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:54:03 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:





I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the



private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is



fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool.



Wow Harry, I didn't think that you of all people would endorse needless bloodshed...





I'm not convinced that getting rid of ammo hoarders would be

"needless..."

You say you have a 'few boxes' so is than not 'hording' I mean, where's the line? If low enough, you'd go too, Harry...

?;^ )

On 2/17/2014 5:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:19:15 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 4:25 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:54:03 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:





I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the



private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is



fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool.



Wow Harry, I didn't think that you of all people would endorse needless bloodshed...





I'm not convinced that getting rid of ammo hoarders would be

"needless..."

You say you have a 'few boxes' so is than not 'hording' I mean, where's the line? If low enough, you'd go too, Harry...

?;^ )



The current round of "hording" ammo started due to concerns that
political pressures would restrict both gun ownership and ammo
availability. Then the closure of the only lead smelting plant in the
US in 2010 led many to erroneously believe that lead would no longer be
available for ammunition manufacturing. This is not true. Virtually
*all* the lead used for ammo is from recycled supplies ranging from
automotive wheel weights, fishing weights and ballast. There's a
surplus of lead around and the ammo manufacturers won't run out anytime
soon.

I remember when I first started going to the range. I didn't have much
ammo for each gun and would typically shoot up whatever supply I had
knowing I could easily restock. At the height of the current shortage,
I'd buy whatever I could find, so I guess I contributed to the hoarding.
It seems to be easing now. The shelves at my favorite gun shop are
getting full again and quantity restrictions on some calipers have ended.

On 2/17/14, 5:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:19:15 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 4:25 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:54:03 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:





I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the



private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is



fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool.



Wow Harry, I didn't think that you of all people would endorse needless bloodshed...





I'm not convinced that getting rid of ammo hoarders would be

"needless..."

You say you have a 'few boxes' so is than not 'hording' I mean, where's the line? If low enough, you'd go too, Harry...

?;^ )



Most of the ammo I have left was purchased long before the gun nutsies
went nutsier. The only "new" ammo I have is a couple of boxes in .45...

On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:45:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:54:03 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 2/17/14, 2:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Even the NRA is now admitting that the ammo shortage and resulting

higher prices was and remains due to hoarding by the public. Sorta

blows a hole through all the government "conspiracy" theories that at

least one individual here was promoting.



http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/the-nra-reveals-whos-to-blame-for-ammo-shortage-yo.aspx







I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the

private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is

fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool. I've only


got four to six boxes each of .22LR, 45ACP, 45LC, and a few boxes of

shotgun shells, so I'm not hoarding.


At what point does hoarding simply become investing?



If you never shoot, you are hoarding but if you believe you will shoot

the ammo eventually it is just an investment.

I feel a whole lot better about going to the range and shooting 15

cent shots than those guys who are shooting at 75 cents a round and

not sure if they will have any next week.

Greg that's the way I look at it. I really don't go shooting ofr the sake of burning up brass, but several years ago (about 25), I bought govt. surplus .223 at .14c. a round in bulk. I thought it was worth copping a couple thousand count.

"Dirty" Chinese 7.62x39 surplus? 1500 rd. per crate at .07c. a shot. I figured that was worth 3 crates.

..44 mag, .357, .22- same deals and likewise, same types of quantities.

Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:45:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:54:03 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 2/17/14, 2:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Even the NRA is now admitting that the ammo shortage and resulting
higher prices was and remains due to hoarding by the public. Sorta
blows a hole through all the government "conspiracy" theories that at
least one individual here was promoting.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/the-nra-reveals-whos-to-blame-for-ammo-shortage-yo.aspx
I'm kinda hoping for a *huge* all-American gunfight between *all* the
private citizen ammo hoarders, one that lasts until the last round is
fired. It'll be loud, flashy, and it'll improve the gene pool. I've only

got four to six boxes each of .22LR, 45ACP, 45LC, and a few boxes of
shotgun shells, so I'm not hoarding.

At what point does hoarding simply become investing?



If you never shoot, you are hoarding but if you believe you will shoot

the ammo eventually it is just an investment.

I feel a whole lot better about going to the range and shooting 15

cent shots than those guys who are shooting at 75 cents a round and

not sure if they will have any next week.
Greg that's the way I look at it. I really don't go shooting ofr the sake of burning up brass, but several years ago (about 25), I bought govt. surplus .223 at .14c. a round in bulk. I thought it was worth copping a couple thousand count.

"Dirty" Chinese 7.62x39 surplus? 1500 rd. per crate at .07c. a shot. I figured that was worth 3 crates.

.44 mag, .357, .22- same deals and likewise, same types of quantities.
..308 is still insanely expensive. .45 auto is cheaper!

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:42:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Even the NRA is now admitting that the ammo shortage and resulting
higher prices was and remains due to hoarding by the public. Sorta
blows a hole through all the government "conspiracy" theories that at
least one individual here was promoting.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/the-nra-reveals-whos-to-blame-for-ammo-shortage-yo.aspx

You must have missed it. I posted the NRA article from 'American Rifleman' a few weeks back. Good
article.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...&cat=27&sub=31

In article , says...

Even the NRA is now admitting that the ammo shortage and resulting
higher prices was and remains due to hoarding by the public. Sorta
blows a hole through all the government "conspiracy" theories that at
least one individual here was promoting.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/the-nra-reveals-whos-to-blame-for-ammo-shortage-yo.aspx

There is plenty of ammo available. The issue most people have is that it is expensive. If you
want to buy 10,000 rounds of 5.56 you can have it on your door step by the end of the week.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 08:09:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

Even the NRA is now admitting that the ammo shortage and resulting
higher prices was and remains due to hoarding by the public. Sorta
blows a hole through all the government "conspiracy" theories that at
least one individual here was promoting.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/the-nra-reveals-whos-to-blame-for-ammo-shortage-yo.aspx

There is plenty of ammo available. The issue most people have is that it is expensive. If you
want to buy 10,000 rounds of 5.56 you can have it on your door step by the end of the week.


..22 is still pretty hard to find.