Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Monday, 6 January 2014 12:36:38 UTC-4, Tim wrote:
10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know
of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...


We're at a balmy 42 F with a light rain.
A few miles inland tells a different story.

When I walked the dogs at 7:30, it was a nice 45 F, but now it's dropped
to 35 F and still dropping.
It's supposed to get down to 7 F tonight, but that's not nearly as bad as
points west northwest.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!

Overcast. Supposed to get some rain tomorrow and Weds. We need the rain.
46 going to 68 is today's forecast.

On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:
10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)

Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.

No need to go anywhere...



The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.
I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you
are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.

Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and
let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the
battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.
engine).

It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't
start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the
electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other
seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have
heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess
not.

On Monday, 6 January 2014 14:13:58 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:

10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...







The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.

I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you

are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.



Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and

let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the

battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.

engine).



It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't

start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the

electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other

seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have

heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess

not.


I have a block heater on my Highlander and now have to purchase a battery blanket.
Those two items are more than enough for our climate.
A normal winter might require 6-10 instances where I use them.
My outside plug is controlled by a switch at the top of the basement stairs.
In the cape Cod style house I built in the burbs back in the mid '70s, the switch was right over my head in bed.
I didn't even have to open my eyes...just reach up to get the warmth flowing.
The old 77 Aspen Wagon's slant six loved me for it.

On 1/6/2014 2:01 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 6 January 2014 14:13:58 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:

10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...







The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.

I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you

are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.



Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and

let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the

battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.

engine).



It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't

start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the

electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other

seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have

heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess

not.


I have a block heater on my Highlander and now have to purchase a battery blanket.
Those two items are more than enough for our climate.
A normal winter might require 6-10 instances where I use them.
My outside plug is controlled by a switch at the top of the basement stairs.
In the cape Cod style house I built in the burbs back in the mid '70s, the switch was right over my head in bed.
I didn't even have to open my eyes...just reach up to get the warmth flowing.
The old 77 Aspen Wagon's slant six loved me for it.


Yeah, this winter I bought one of those magnetic heaters for my diesel
powered tractor. It's only 200 watts and thermostatically controlled,
so I leave it plugged in all the time. I stuck it on the bottom of the
oil pan and it seems to help a lot. Although sluggish because the
battery was cold, it still fired right up the other day after running
the glow plug for 20 seconds. It was 5 degrees at the time. Diesels
don't like cold.

On Monday, 6 January 2014 15:25:40 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2014 2:01 PM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 6 January 2014 14:13:58 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:



10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)







Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.







No need to go anywhere...















The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.



I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you



are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.







Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and



let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the



battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.



engine).







It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't



start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the



electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other



seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have



heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess



not.





I have a block heater on my Highlander and now have to purchase a battery blanket.

Those two items are more than enough for our climate.

A normal winter might require 6-10 instances where I use them.

My outside plug is controlled by a switch at the top of the basement stairs.

In the cape Cod style house I built in the burbs back in the mid '70s, the switch was right over my head in bed.

I didn't even have to open my eyes...just reach up to get the warmth flowing.

The old 77 Aspen Wagon's slant six loved me for it.





Yeah, this winter I bought one of those magnetic heaters for my diesel

powered tractor. It's only 200 watts and thermostatically controlled,

so I leave it plugged in all the time. I stuck it on the bottom of the

oil pan and it seems to help a lot. Although sluggish because the

battery was cold, it still fired right up the other day after running

the glow plug for 20 seconds. It was 5 degrees at the time. Diesels

don't like cold.


Another good reason for the block heater, besides easier startup, is reduced wear on the moving engine components.
I read recently that a vehicle engine from the colder regions of Canada would have as much wear in 3 years as a 10 year old Kalifornia vehicle.
Gotta baby those engines up here if you want to get 10 + years out of them.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/6/2014 2:01 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 6 January 2014 14:13:58 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:

10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know
of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...







The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.

I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you

are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.



Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and

let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the

battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.

engine).



It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't

start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the

electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other

seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have

heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess

not.


I have a block heater on my Highlander and now have to purchase a battery blanket.
Those two items are more than enough for our climate.
A normal winter might require 6-10 instances where I use them.
My outside plug is controlled by a switch at the top of the basement stairs.
In the cape Cod style house I built in the burbs back in the mid '70s,
the switch was right over my head in bed.
I didn't even have to open my eyes...just reach up to get the warmth flowing.
The old 77 Aspen Wagon's slant six loved me for it.


Yeah, this winter I bought one of those magnetic heaters for my diesel
powered tractor. It's only 200 watts and thermostatically controlled, so
I leave it plugged in all the time. I stuck it on the bottom of the oil
pan and it seems to help a lot. Although sluggish because the battery
was cold, it still fired right up the other day after running the glow
plug for 20 seconds. It was 5 degrees at the time. Diesels don't like cold.

I was in Steam Boat Springs the Winter of 1968. Car was in the shade, and
would not hardly turn over. Had to get a jump start. Was the 4 speed
manual tranny. The temps was about zero, and the oil was very stiff. Soon
as I put in the clutch and engine fired right up. Do you use a cold
weather additive in the diesel?

On 1/6/2014 8:18 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/6/2014 2:01 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 6 January 2014 14:13:58 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:

10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know
of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...







The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.

I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you

are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.



Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and

let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the

battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.

engine).



It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't

start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the

electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other

seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have

heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess

not.


I have a block heater on my Highlander and now have to purchase a battery blanket.
Those two items are more than enough for our climate.
A normal winter might require 6-10 instances where I use them.
My outside plug is controlled by a switch at the top of the basement stairs.
In the cape Cod style house I built in the burbs back in the mid '70s,
the switch was right over my head in bed.
I didn't even have to open my eyes...just reach up to get the warmth flowing.
The old 77 Aspen Wagon's slant six loved me for it.


Yeah, this winter I bought one of those magnetic heaters for my diesel
powered tractor. It's only 200 watts and thermostatically controlled, so
I leave it plugged in all the time. I stuck it on the bottom of the oil
pan and it seems to help a lot. Although sluggish because the battery
was cold, it still fired right up the other day after running the glow
plug for 20 seconds. It was 5 degrees at the time. Diesels don't like cold.

I was in Steam Boat Springs the Winter of 1968. Car was in the shade, and
would not hardly turn over. Had to get a jump start. Was the 4 speed
manual tranny. The temps was about zero, and the oil was very stiff. Soon
as I put in the clutch and engine fired right up. Do you use a cold
weather additive in the diesel?


Just gonna' remind you all that if your battery is dead in the winter,
make sure it's not frozen before you put a jump to it.... No
exaggeration, if it's frozen and you add boost it could blow with the
force of a quarter stick of dynamite. I have seen parts fly 30 yards
when a frozen battery exploded. In the winter time, always stand behind
the hood or a door when applying boost to a dead battery, and when
someone turns the key...

On 1/6/2014 8:18 PM, Califbill wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Yeah, this winter I bought one of those magnetic heaters for my diesel
powered tractor. It's only 200 watts and thermostatically controlled, so
I leave it plugged in all the time. I stuck it on the bottom of the oil
pan and it seems to help a lot. Although sluggish because the battery
was cold, it still fired right up the other day after running the glow
plug for 20 seconds. It was 5 degrees at the time. Diesels don't like cold.

I was in Steam Boat Springs the Winter of 1968. Car was in the shade, and
would not hardly turn over. Had to get a jump start. Was the 4 speed
manual tranny. The temps was about zero, and the oil was very stiff. Soon
as I put in the clutch and engine fired right up. Do you use a cold
weather additive in the diesel?


I don't add anything to the fuel because I have been told that whatever
is needed during winter months is added by the fuel distributor. Same
with boats, I found out years ago when I had diesels. The fuel
distributor adds additives that are supposed to prevent the little
critters from growing in the fuel if stored for a long period of time.

Back in the late 80s I had a Ford Ranger with a manual transmission
made by Mazda. Decided to stop at a Jiffy Lube type place and they
recommended changing the transmission fluid (lube). Like an idiot I
said "ok".

The clown (probably a junior high school part timer) put 90 weight gear
lube in it. The manual transmission used in the Ranger is supposed to
take regular automatic transmission fluid.

The first cold day we had, I got in the truck, started it up and tried
to put it in reverse to back out of the driveway. I couldn't budge the
gear shift out of whatever gear it was in.

On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:01:13 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Monday, 6 January 2014 14:13:58 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:

10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...







The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.

I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you

are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.



Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and

let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the

battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i.

engine).



It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't

start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the

electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other

seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have

heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess

not.


I have a block heater on my Highlander and now have to purchase a battery blanket.
Those two items are more than enough for our climate.
A normal winter might require 6-10 instances where I use them.
My outside plug is controlled by a switch at the top of the basement stairs.
In the cape Cod style house I built in the burbs back in the mid '70s, the switch was right over my head in bed.
I didn't even have to open my eyes...just reach up to get the warmth flowing.
The old 77 Aspen Wagon's slant six loved me for it.

I just hooked the charger up to my batteries. I don't start that big diesel enough when we're not
camping, but the motorcycle gets a lot of use.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:
10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)

Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of
seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.

No need to go anywhere...



The coldest weather I ever experienced was in Zion, IL back in 1973.
I've forgotten the actual temps but one weekend they were like what you
are experiencing now ... double digits below zero.

Someone advised me that I should start my car every couple of hours and
let it run for about 15 minutes to keep the oil from thickening and the
battery charged. Big mistake. (I had a 1969 Ford LTD with a 429 c.i. engine).

It started and I let it run for the prescribed 15 minutes. It didn't
start again for two days. I finally removed a spark plug and the
electrode was fully encased in ice, as were the electrodes on the other
seven plugs. You would think that running for 15 minutes would have
heated everything enough to remove any residual water vapor, but I guess not.

My brother spent 3 summers as a SeaBee in the Antarctic. He said summer
storms would get -50. They would leave the snowcats running to keep the
engine from freezing, but could not drive them as the tracks would fracture
from the cold.