On Monday, January 6, 2014 8:47:35 PM UTC-6, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:36:38 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



10" of drifting snow and -10 below 0f. and breezy. (wind chill like -40)



Not the coldest place on the planet but it's the coldest place I know of seeing w haven't had this type of weather in years.



No need to go anywhere...



===



According to the Weatherunderground radar there is snow and freezing

rain about 60 miles north of here near Sarasota. That does not bode

well for a good beach day tomorrow.



http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d5&size=2x&type=loop

The iceman cometh Wayne. For you and Greg, that's most rare, but temporary though...

On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:24:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

According to the Weatherunderground radar there is snow and freezing

rain about 60 miles north of here near Sarasota. That does not bode

well for a good beach day tomorrow.



http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d5&size=2x&type=loop

The iceman cometh Wayne. For you and Greg, that's most rare, but temporary though...

===

Since we both live on the water, and the water is still around 70
degrees or so, that is an extremely unlikely event. Greg's water is
exceedingly skinny however and consequently holds less heat. On the
other hand, he's a tad farther south. Inland from here it happens
once in a while, and also 20 or 30 miles to the north. As you drive
north a short distance there is a very noticable change in the
predominant vegetation as you cross the frost line.

On Monday, January 6, 2014 11:00:05 PM UTC-6, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:24:17 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



According to the Weatherunderground radar there is snow and freezing



rain about 60 miles north of here near Sarasota. That does not bode



well for a good beach day tomorrow.







http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d5&size=2x&type=loop



The iceman cometh Wayne. For you and Greg, that's most rare, but temporary though...



===



Since we both live on the water, and the water is still around 70

degrees or so, that is an extremely unlikely event. Greg's water is

exceedingly skinny however and consequently holds less heat. On the

other hand, he's a tad farther south. Inland from here it happens

once in a while, and also 20 or 30 miles to the north. As you drive

north a short distance there is a very noticable change in the

predominant vegetation as you cross the frost line.

Before my dad went into the service in 1943, he got a job in Tampa working in a ship yard as an apprentice electrician. When he got off the train in Tampa Fl. it was snowing.

Rare, but it happened.

On 1/7/2014 2:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:00:05 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:24:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

According to the Weatherunderground radar there is snow and freezing

rain about 60 miles north of here near Sarasota. That does not bode

well for a good beach day tomorrow.



http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d5&size=2x&type=loop

The iceman cometh Wayne. For you and Greg, that's most rare, but temporary though...

===

Since we both live on the water, and the water is still around 70
degrees or so, that is an extremely unlikely event. Greg's water is
exceedingly skinny however and consequently holds less heat. On the
other hand, he's a tad farther south. Inland from here it happens
once in a while, and also 20 or 30 miles to the north. As you drive
north a short distance there is a very noticable change in the
predominant vegetation as you cross the frost line.

20.8C at 0700 this morning air and water. (~69.5F)
That is a fairly unusual coincidence.

air temp is 61 right now (0200)



During the three winters we were in Jupiter, I can only recall one
morning when there was frost on the windshield of my car. By 10 am it
was 65 to 70 degrees again.

Our house had electric heaters in the air handlers for the AC units. I
think we used them three or four times in 3 years.

On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 22:34:01 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/6/2014 8:18 PM, Califbill wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Yeah, this winter I bought one of those magnetic heaters for my diesel
powered tractor. It's only 200 watts and thermostatically controlled, so
I leave it plugged in all the time. I stuck it on the bottom of the oil
pan and it seems to help a lot. Although sluggish because the battery
was cold, it still fired right up the other day after running the glow
plug for 20 seconds. It was 5 degrees at the time. Diesels don't like cold.

I was in Steam Boat Springs the Winter of 1968. Car was in the shade, and
would not hardly turn over. Had to get a jump start. Was the 4 speed
manual tranny. The temps was about zero, and the oil was very stiff. Soon
as I put in the clutch and engine fired right up. Do you use a cold
weather additive in the diesel?


I don't add anything to the fuel because I have been told that whatever
is needed during winter months is added by the fuel distributor. Same
with boats, I found out years ago when I had diesels. The fuel
distributor adds additives that are supposed to prevent the little
critters from growing in the fuel if stored for a long period of time.

Back in the late 80s I had a Ford Ranger with a manual transmission
made by Mazda. Decided to stop at a Jiffy Lube type place and they
recommended changing the transmission fluid (lube). Like an idiot I
said "ok".

The clown (probably a junior high school part timer) put 90 weight gear
lube in it. The manual transmission used in the Ranger is supposed to
take regular automatic transmission fluid.

The first cold day we had, I got in the truck, started it up and tried
to put it in reverse to back out of the driveway. I couldn't budge the
gear shift out of whatever gear it was in.

A good reason to take your own oil to Jiffy Lube.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!

On 1/7/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 02:41:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/7/2014 2:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:00:05 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:24:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

According to the Weatherunderground radar there is snow and freezing

rain about 60 miles north of here near Sarasota. That does not bode

well for a good beach day tomorrow.



http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d5&size=2x&type=loop

The iceman cometh Wayne. For you and Greg, that's most rare, but temporary though...

===

Since we both live on the water, and the water is still around 70
degrees or so, that is an extremely unlikely event. Greg's water is
exceedingly skinny however and consequently holds less heat. On the
other hand, he's a tad farther south. Inland from here it happens
once in a while, and also 20 or 30 miles to the north. As you drive
north a short distance there is a very noticable change in the
predominant vegetation as you cross the frost line.

20.8C at 0700 this morning air and water. (~69.5F)
That is a fairly unusual coincidence.

air temp is 61 right now (0200)



During the three winters we were in Jupiter, I can only recall one
morning when there was frost on the windshield of my car. By 10 am it
was 65 to 70 degrees again.

Our house had electric heaters in the air handlers for the AC units. I
think we used them three or four times in 3 years.


This is one of those rare days when it is cooler than that. I had to
put a shirt on to walk Ed this morning. 50 something.
If you can stay out if the wind, the sun feels good.
People are bundled up like they are in Minnesota



It briefly got into the mid 50's here yesterday before nosediving again
overnight.

People at the stores were walking around in shorts.

Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 6, 2014 11:00:05 PM UTC-6, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:24:17 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



According to the Weatherunderground radar there is snow and freezing



rain about 60 miles north of here near Sarasota. That does not bode



well for a good beach day tomorrow.







http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d5&size=2x&type=loop



The iceman cometh Wayne. For you and Greg, that's most rare, but temporary though...



===



Since we both live on the water, and the water is still around 70

degrees or so, that is an extremely unlikely event. Greg's water is

exceedingly skinny however and consequently holds less heat. On the

other hand, he's a tad farther south. Inland from here it happens

once in a while, and also 20 or 30 miles to the north. As you drive

north a short distance there is a very noticable change in the

predominant vegetation as you cross the frost line.

Before my dad went into the service in 1943, he got a job in Tampa
working in a ship yard as an apprentice electrician. When he got off the
train in Tampa Fl. it was snowing.

Rare, but it happened.

My wife and family moved to Houston for a couple years in the early 60's.
She got a frozen radiator on the car. I guess in those days, they did not
run antifreeze in all the cars, especially in the South.

Here, it's supposed to be in the mid 40's this weekend.

I imagine there will be some numbskulls walking around in shorts here too.

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:27:24 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:33:57 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Here, it's supposed to be in the mid 40's this weekend.



I imagine there will be some numbskulls walking around in shorts here too.





Hey there! I am still in shorts ... but it is high 50s.

I do have my shirt on and I am hurrying Ed along ;-)



65 I can deal with but 57 and 15kts out of the north is brutal

This was better



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Oregon/Mt%2...0Mt%20Hood.jpg

Ah yes. I remember being in Germany and the air was warm, the snow was thick and people skiing the alps in T shirts.

But around here, at 40-50 degrees, the bone chilling humidity from the melting snow is the problem. Actually, after a snow, it seems warmer at 15f. and a sunny, cloudless day, then at 40 with an overcast sky and a bit of a breeze. The wind will drive the cold humidity right through a good pair of Carharts.

I'd say the "Beam" was a major contributor.

Sorry about no water....