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JustWait[_2_] December 26th 12 01:53 AM

Generator
 
On 12/25/2012 2:58 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:04:16 -0600, Califbill wrote:

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If
I use it at home, it would be
only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I
primarily wanted something I could
throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't
available.

===

70 dB is not super quiet, not at all.

These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level:

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html

70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB.

Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are
easy to carry and load into a truck.

....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not
ex-hedge fund manager or writer
for a union rag.

---------------------------------------------

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use
.... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely
not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and
an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.




Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at
campgrounds where electricity is
available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in
campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator.

Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while
boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds.

Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent!

That's odd, I've camped all over the U.S. in all kinds of weather and
did so perfectly fine without a generator or electricity. But then
again, I actually camp, as opposed to just moving to a different
location with all of the amenities of my home. I don't need a microwave,
electric coffee maker, etc. to have a good experience.


I am old and like comfort. Have a truck camper, and boat remote lakes at
times. Would be nice to have emergency power and a way to charge up the
batteries, especially if the truck batts went down.


That cute little Honda EU2000i might be right up your alley:

http://tinyurl.com/cxpl99n


Yeah, if you can afford it, it's a nice rig.... however.....

If I were him, and onlywanted to use it for emergency and battery
charging, etc I might "consider" the 1000, it's sooooo quiet even
compared to the 2000. We used the 2000 honda at Unadilla and had to put
it in the hauler overnight and it was still too loud to run overnight.
The 1000 would have been fine if you got the super quiet model, running
in that 30 foot hauler with the doors mostly shut...

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 01:59 AM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:26:54 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote:

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use ....
and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not
going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an
annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.

Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it.

Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area
is well removed from the RV area.



My favorite campground isn't segregated.

http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php

None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity,
and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available.


BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.


I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?


Ditto to the above. I've never tent camped on a site with water or electricity or sewage. I did have
a little light I could hook to the motorcycle battery for reading. Putting tent, sleeping bags,
Thermarests (yes!), cooking gear, clothes, tools, and my wife and I on two motorcycles didn't leave
room for much else.

Earl[_70_] December 26th 12 02:00 AM

Generator
 
wrote:
On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32:14 AM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one?
http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb
This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies.



Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna'

hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'..

I don't think Johnny worries too much about the neighbours.

You don't seem to care about your house and yard. I'm sure your
neighbors high-five you every time they pass by.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:05 AM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...


BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.


I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?


See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.


Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:06 AM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.


But why would you feel free to annoy them...?


How?

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:11 AM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:45:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:37:15 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote:


My favorite campground isn't segregated.
http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php


None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity,
and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available.


BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.


Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one,
that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it
without electricity and water hookups.

I have no reason to bull**** you or anyone else about it.


And I have no reason either. I would estimate 30-40% tent campers in
the A loop of the referenced campground (with power/water), and more in
the B, G, and T loops where you would need your generator. Some forgo
the tent and sleep outside on a cot or pad when it's nice. Maybe it's
regional or age differences? Many campers here bring boats instead of
RVs but still like the convenience of a coffee maker and microwave.
When I stay for a week or more I bring a small freezer.


That's cool. I don't think I intimated you were bull****ting me or anyone else. I told you my
experiences, you told me yours. You refer to one campground, and I've stayed in dozens, just in the
past ten years. When we stay a week, we bring a refrigerator, freezer, oven, coffee maker, and a
toilet. And, have as good a time as we did when we had a couple sleeping bags and a tent. Often,
we'll take the boat *and* the RV. My wife's getting pretty good at towing the boat with her
Highlander. Both Lake Anna and Solomon's Island area offer great boating and fishing.

ESAD December 26th 12 02:12 AM

Generator
 
On 12/25/12 8:49 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:06:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/25/12 3:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one,
that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it
without electricity and water hookups.


- - -

So, you want to be upwind and upstream of the tenters, eh?


Why?


Because without water, they're going to smell bad.

JustWait[_2_] December 26th 12 02:13 AM

Generator
 
On 12/25/2012 9:00 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32:14 AM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or
had one?
http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb
This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary,
emergencies.


Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna'

hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'..

I don't think Johnny worries too much about the neighbours.

You don't seem to care about your house and yard. I'm sure your
neighbors high-five you every time they pass by.


Really, you would think he would know we all know he's "that guy" all
the time...

Earl[_70_] December 26th 12 02:25 AM

Generator
 
ESAD wrote:
On 12/23/12 11:27 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:31:03 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or
had one?

http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb

This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary,
emergencies.


Contractor generators are very loud... You will not want to use this
for
home use. We used to use one and had to put it in the detached garage
and run cables to the house or it would keep the whole neighborhood
awake. They are made for construction sites, hope you are not trying to
cheap out on a tool, cause if it's home generation you are looking for,
you probably bought the wrong tool...


Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If I
use it at home, it would be
only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I
primarily wanted something I could
throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't available.


70dB is hardly super quiet. My home genny runs at 60 dB in test mode
and 66 dB at load, or about the same, to my ears, as a neighbor
running his lawn tractor. 70 dB is significantly louder but not
annoyingly so during a power outage, since others will be running
them, too.

Did you pay your taxes yet or is that an expense the rest of us bear?

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:29 AM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:53:11 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/25/2012 2:58 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:04:16 -0600, Califbill wrote:

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If
I use it at home, it would be
only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I
primarily wanted something I could
throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't
available.

===

70 dB is not super quiet, not at all.

These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level:

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html

70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB.

Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are
easy to carry and load into a truck.

....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not
ex-hedge fund manager or writer
for a union rag.

---------------------------------------------

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use
.... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely
not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and
an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.




Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at
campgrounds where electricity is
available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in
campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator.

Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while
boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds.

Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent!

That's odd, I've camped all over the U.S. in all kinds of weather and
did so perfectly fine without a generator or electricity. But then
again, I actually camp, as opposed to just moving to a different
location with all of the amenities of my home. I don't need a microwave,
electric coffee maker, etc. to have a good experience.

I am old and like comfort. Have a truck camper, and boat remote lakes at
times. Would be nice to have emergency power and a way to charge up the
batteries, especially if the truck batts went down.


That cute little Honda EU2000i might be right up your alley:

http://tinyurl.com/cxpl99n


Yeah, if you can afford it, it's a nice rig.... however.....

If I were him, and onlywanted to use it for emergency and battery
charging, etc I might "consider" the 1000, it's sooooo quiet even
compared to the 2000. We used the 2000 honda at Unadilla and had to put
it in the hauler overnight and it was still too loud to run overnight.
The 1000 would have been fine if you got the super quiet model, running
in that 30 foot hauler with the doors mostly shut...


That one's just too small. With resource management the 2K should be enough, but not the baby of the
family.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:31 AM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:12:35 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/25/12 8:49 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:06:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/25/12 3:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one,
that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it
without electricity and water hookups.

- - -

So, you want to be upwind and upstream of the tenters, eh?


Why?


Because without water, they're going to smell bad.


The campgrounds we use all have bathhouses. I've never noticed any smelly tenters.

thumper December 26th 12 02:35 AM

Generator
 
On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.


But why would you feel free to annoy them...?


How?


If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.


[email protected] December 26th 12 02:42 AM

Generator
 
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 10:00:29 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
wrote:

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32:14 AM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:


On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:




I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one?


http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb

This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies.






Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna'




hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'..


I don't think Johnny worries too much about the neighbours.


You don't seem to care about your house and yard. I'm sure your

neighbors high-five you every time they pass by.


B
Well, Ditzy...y'all sure do come by your name honestly.

Califbill December 26th 12 06:48 AM

Generator
 
GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...


BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?


See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.


Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where
the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what
I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years,
and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground
outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a
guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they
were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked
having the water right
there.


Oregon parks seem to be the same cheap price, for any site, power and water
included.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 01:55 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
lid says...

On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote:

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use ....
and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not
going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an
annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.

Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it.

Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area
is well removed from the RV area.



My favorite campground isn't segregated.

http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php

None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity,
and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available.


BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.


I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?


Tent. Every few days I'd hit a campground that had showers, laundry,
etc. for one night, and for a couple of bucks more, I could get
electricity and water. Used the water to wash gear, etc.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 02:05 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:50:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:06:15 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

The biggest limitation I see with camping is you are pretty much
limited to where you are willing to drive.
Sometimes we are up to the maximum of 3 bags each, on a 3 week fly
drive vacation the way it is. I am usually just my big duffel bag and
a cooler but my wife packs heavy, particularly coming home.

Really? You can hike to the AT trail for a few days at a time and never
see a vehicle.

That's great if you think the east coast of the US is the only place
you want to see but we like hiking around out west. I have been on the
AT a number of times but the scenery doesn't really change that much
from Georgia to Pennsylvania.


Well, I've also hiked the Pacific Coast Trail, spent two weeks
backpacking in Yellowstone, and in my teens spent a summer in Yosemite.
I find it funny that you don't think the scenery changes much from GA to
PA. I guess you really didn't notice much. That may be your trouble, you
need to take the time to look, learn and appreciate.



They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg


Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 02:06 PM

Generator
 
In article , lid says...

On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?


How?


If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.


You have to explain every little nuance to Herring, he's really dumb.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 02:11 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?


See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.


Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.


Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 02:13 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/25/12 8:49 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:06:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/25/12 3:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one,
that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it
without electricity and water hookups.

- - -

So, you want to be upwind and upstream of the tenters, eh?


Why?


Because without water, they're going to smell bad.


You stupid fool, I take it you've never been to a campground. Most,
including state parks have showers and laundry facilities.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:45 PM

Generator
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:35:31 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?


How?


If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.


I can't imagine anyone doing that. Although, I have seen show stars, like Rhonda Vincent, leave the
generator in their bus running all night at the Gettysburg Bluegrass Festival. Their bus was
probably a hundred yards from the nearest RV, and the generator was very quiet.

If you camp where people are doing as you describe, running a noisy generator all night, try asking
them to shut it down. There must be rules about such things. Most places we've been to disallow
running generators after around 10-11 PM.

I have seen tenters with a generator. They bring everything in a pickup and have room for lots of
stuff. But, I've not heard one running at night.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:46 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:06:09 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?

How?


If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.


You have to explain every little nuance to Herring, he's really dumb.


It's a fact that I don't have your intelligence.

Thank God for small favors.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:47 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:48:30 -0600, Califbill wrote:

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.


Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where
the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what
I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years,
and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground
outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a
guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they
were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked
having the water right
there.


Oregon parks seem to be the same cheap price, for any site, power and water
included.


Wow, I've never seen that anywhere.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 02:53 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.


Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.


Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!


Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult! And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Assumptions again?

JustWait[_2_] December 26th 12 02:54 PM

Generator
 
On 12/26/2012 9:45 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:35:31 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?

How?


If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.


I can't imagine anyone doing that. Although, I have seen show stars, like Rhonda Vincent, leave the
generator in their bus running all night at the Gettysburg Bluegrass Festival. Their bus was
probably a hundred yards from the nearest RV, and the generator was very quiet.

If you camp where people are doing as you describe, running a noisy generator all night, try asking
them to shut it down. There must be rules about such things. Most places we've been to disallow
running generators after around 10-11 PM.


The rules are probably more enforced in campgrounds where there are a
lot of seasonal campers. The reality is the more transitional sites a
lot of times although the rules are there, the owners are not really
interested in encountering the kind of drunken asshole that usually runs
the things, at that time of night....

I have seen tenters with a generator. They bring everything in a pickup and have room for lots of
stuff. But, I've not heard one running at night.



iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 03:34 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.


Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!


Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!


Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.


I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.


Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?


No, see above.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 04:00 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!


Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!


Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.


I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.


Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?


No, see above.


You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

ESAD December 26th 12 04:12 PM

Generator
 
On 12/26/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!


Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.


I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.


Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?


No, see above.


You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


We camped out here for five days last summer...

http://tinyurl.com/dynmrev


We didn't bring the tent we don't have or a portable generator. Just
clothes and suntan lotion.



iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 04:21 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!


Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.


I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.


Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?


No, see above.


You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 04:49 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.


You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.


My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 04:50 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.


You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.


And, if you don't have it, please get insurance on whatever totes your boat and camping gear, and
you to your campgrounds.

Is it very dark up there?

Meyer[_2_] December 26th 12 04:55 PM

Generator
 
On 12/26/2012 11:49 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.


My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.

Let it go John. Loogie prefers primitive camping, where as, you and I
prefer something a little more civilized. Nothing wrong with that. To
each his own.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 05:00 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.


My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.


You stupid old fool, that's not what I asked, nor what I stated. Can you
simply not follow a conversation? Really, do you have Alzheimer's or
something?

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 05:14 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:55:10 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 12/26/2012 11:49 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.


My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.

Let it go John. Loogie prefers primitive camping, where as, you and I
prefer something a little more civilized. Nothing wrong with that. To
each his own.


I have and still enjoy both.

But, when I take the bike and tents, I have insurance. Poor Loogy implied that he didn't need
insurance to go camping.

GuzzisRule December 26th 12 05:15 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:00:12 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.


My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.


You stupid old fool, that's not what I asked, nor what I stated. Can you
simply not follow a conversation? Really, do you have Alzheimer's or
something?


~snerk~

BAR[_2_] December 26th 12 05:17 PM

Generator
 
In article , says...

On 12/26/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.


You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


We camped out here for five days last summer...

http://tinyurl.com/dynmrev


We didn't bring the tent we don't have or a portable generator. Just
clothes and suntan lotion.


Why would you go vacation in a right to work state. Freaking
"freeloaders" getting the benefit of unions but not paying the union
dues.

Why don't you go to Ocean City Maryland? Support your own state's
vacation and tourism industry?


Meyer[_2_] December 26th 12 06:31 PM

Generator
 
On 12/26/2012 12:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 12/26/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


We camped out here for five days last summer...

http://tinyurl.com/dynmrev


We didn't bring the tent we don't have or a portable generator. Just
clothes and suntan lotion.


Why would you go vacation in a right to work state. Freaking
"freeloaders" getting the benefit of unions but not paying the union
dues.

Why don't you go to Ocean City Maryland? Support your own state's
vacation and tourism industry?

He prefers the charm of a seaside hi-rise cottage.

BAR[_2_] December 26th 12 06:44 PM

Generator
 
In article om,
says...

On 12/26/2012 12:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/26/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


We camped out here for five days last summer...

http://tinyurl.com/dynmrev


We didn't bring the tent we don't have or a portable generator. Just
clothes and suntan lotion.


Why would you go vacation in a right to work state. Freaking
"freeloaders" getting the benefit of unions but not paying the union
dues.

Why don't you go to Ocean City Maryland? Support your own state's
vacation and tourism industry?

He prefers the charm of a seaside hi-rise cottage.


I think he likes going to Virginia because it enables him to concealed
carry his pistol.


iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 06:45 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:55:10 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 12/26/2012 11:49 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.

My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.

Let it go John. Loogie prefers primitive camping, where as, you and I
prefer something a little more civilized. Nothing wrong with that. To
each his own.


I have and still enjoy both.

But, when I take the bike and tents, I have insurance. Poor Loogy implied that he didn't need
insurance to go camping.


I didn't imply any such thing, you moron!! You just are too feeble
minded to understand plain English. I said, and this is a EXACT quote
"don't have insurance on my tent". I don't. If you can't comprehend a
simple sentence, I'd suggest you go see a doctor, I think you just may
have Alzheimer's or something similar.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 06:46 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:00:12 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.

My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.


You stupid old fool, that's not what I asked, nor what I stated. Can you
simply not follow a conversation? Really, do you have Alzheimer's or
something?


~snerk~


That's you in a nutshell, stupid and proud of it.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 26th 12 06:47 PM

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In article ,
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg


Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???



I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to
buy food in or out.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..


I love to drive around the U.S.A. Did you realize you can see a lot more
driving than you can in an airplane?


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