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On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:28:34 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:20:09 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:42:52 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: True, but once you get up to those $300-$500 a night rooms, RV's start looking pretty good! Not unless you spend more than 3 weeks on the road a year. Just the amortization of the cost of the RV was more than we spent on rooms, rentacars and air fare when we ran the numbers with my RV owner neighbor (based on losing 50% of the purchase price in 5 years). That was a conservative guess Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. Those guys with a dually have a *big* dick, or so I've heard. The extra capacity afforded by the dually is about 1100lbs for the Silverado 2500 diesel. There are a bunch of cons. I needed that truck to haul stuff with. Actually, the one I had prior to this one hauled stuff, but I gave it to a nephew. |
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On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago Union shop?? |
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says... On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:58:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:40:46 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:34:28 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:51:11 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: My first real job was with the US Coast and Geodetic Survey, working the Minuteman sites in Sidney, NE and Minot, ND. Neither place was very exciting. I rode through the Badlands with some Guzzi friends from Holland. Very beautiful country. But, I wouldn't want to live there. I kept imagining a couple thousand Indians coming down and attacking our little motorcycle train. I agree the Dakotas are mostly a lot of nothing but we had a good time at the Minot state fair. We rented a boat in Beulah at the dam, toured the synfuel plant and took the Air Force tour in Minot. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Silo%20hatch.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/minute%20man.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/B52.jpg We also checked out Wall Drug and went to the rodeo http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Wall%20rodeo.jpg My favorite area is the Black Hills and on out through Wyoming. There are hundreds of miles of logging roads you can drive with nice hikes along the way. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/sylvan%20lake.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Danc...h%20wolves.jpg They have real convenience stores in Sturgis http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/convenience%20store.jpg Of course they have this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Rushmore%20profile.jpg We saw most of those, including Sturgis, on the motorcycle trip through the area. We arrived at Sturgis the week before the Harley Rally. All the vendors, or at least a huge number, had their tents up and their wares on display, so we had a nice couple days looking around. My headlight had gone out, and I was shopping for a bulb. Couldn't find one to fit the Guzzi in any of the places. Mt. Rushmore was a letdown. I don't know what I was expecting, but maybe it had to do with the distance from the mountain to the visitors' center. We didn't go on a mule ride or anything. It just seemed small after seeing all the telephoto shots everywhere. Theodore Roosevelt National Park is VERY scenic. Nice campgrounds too. I would find it hard to plan for a place that won't take reservations. "General Information Juniper Campground and Cottonwood Campground accommodate tents, trailers and recreational vehicles. No hook-ups are available. Individual sites are available on a first-come, first-served basis." Sure would hate to get there in the evening and find them full. I've only been once, and didn't have a problem. But then again, I was in a tent, didn't need a drive-thru type site or anything. No, but you had to park your Cherokee and take your tent to a site. The tent sites are limited also. So, if you get there and it's full, you're SOL! My what? I don't have an RV if that's what you are getting at. I do all of my traveling in my F-150 quad cab. |
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says... On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:55:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. How would you know that? They have a tremendous selection of camping gear, but I suppose you buy all your stuff over the internet. No, we have these things called stores right in my town! I DO however buy a lot online. |
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says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:34:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? Well....if I'd spent the past couple days shooting down the idea of doing *any* shopping while on a trip, l'd not admit to visiting the LL Bean store either! I didn't EVER say *any* shopping, liar. You do have to buy groceries, etc. But, I don't go on vacation just to shop like Harry does. |
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says... On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago I only have to travel three miles or so to one. Why on EARTH would I travel across the country, sit in a hotel room and go to Restoration Hardware?? |
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On 12/28/12 2:47 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 2:13 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago Union shop?? Taste. |
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On 12/28/12 2:50 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:34:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? Well....if I'd spent the past couple days shooting down the idea of doing *any* shopping while on a trip, l'd not admit to visiting the LL Bean store either! I didn't EVER say *any* shopping, liar. You do have to buy groceries, etc. But, I don't go on vacation just to shop like Harry does. You're still on those drugs, eh? I never said I go on vacation "just to shop." |
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On 12/28/12 2:52 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago I only have to travel three miles or so to one. Why on EARTH would I travel across the country, sit in a hotel room and go to Restoration Hardware?? I dunno. Why would you? I don't. |
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In article ,
says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:11:12 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:28:34 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:20:09 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:42:52 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: True, but once you get up to those $300-$500 a night rooms, RV's start looking pretty good! Not unless you spend more than 3 weeks on the road a year. Just the amortization of the cost of the RV was more than we spent on rooms, rentacars and air fare when we ran the numbers with my RV owner neighbor (based on losing 50% of the purchase price in 5 years). That was a conservative guess Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. Those guys with a dually have a *big* dick, or so I've heard. The extra capacity afforded by the dually is about 1100lbs for the Silverado 2500 diesel. There are a bunch of cons. I needed that truck to haul stuff with. Actually, the one I had prior to this one hauled stuff, but I gave it to a nephew. I will never be without a pickup. The downside is that others like that I own one!! |
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says... On 12/28/12 2:50 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:34:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? Well....if I'd spent the past couple days shooting down the idea of doing *any* shopping while on a trip, l'd not admit to visiting the LL Bean store either! I didn't EVER say *any* shopping, liar. You do have to buy groceries, etc. But, I don't go on vacation just to shop like Harry does. You're still on those drugs, eh? I never said I go on vacation "just to shop." No, but you said that you get on a plane, arrive, get a hotel and you and the wife shop. 'Nuff said. If only you would use that money to pay your taxes and other debts, deadbeat. |
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Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:44:04 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/27/2012 8:11 PM, wrote: wrote: Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. I have a neighbor who bought a big 5th wheel trailer and a Ford F350 V10 a while back. The trailer sits in the driveway and he commutes to work in the F350. (?) He probably can't afford the gas to pull the trailer! |
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On 12/28/2012 3:01 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 2:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/28/2012 2:13 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago Union shop?? Taste. You got all caught up in the window dressing. I didn't know you were into towels and bedding and foo foo stuff. |
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On 12/28/2012 12:47 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:44:04 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/27/2012 8:11 PM, wrote: wrote: Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. I have a neighbor who bought a big 5th wheel trailer and a Ford F350 V10 a while back. The trailer sits in the driveway and he commutes to work in the F350. (?) He probably can't afford the gas to pull the trailer! They just don't use it. He's an interesting guy. He also has a nice economical car he could commute in but doesn't. He also has ****ed away much of his retirement savings with dubious sucker investments. He also weighs about 350 lbs and literally devours Krispy Kremes by the dozen. He also is an extreme right wing Rush & Fox News fan. Our wives are good friends but we don't seem to relate very well. |
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wrote in message ... On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:23:51 AM UTC-5, BAR wrote: Ford's V10 is a gas sucking pig. Yeah, but it's a very good hauling machine. With 360 HP and 460 ft/lb of torque, it'll move stuff. You just don't get that for free if you have to go gas instead of diesel. ----------------------------------------- Ford's V10 is one of the few gasoline engines that has the torque ratings of some similar sized diesels. It's too bad it developed a reputation for spitting out spark plugs. |
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says... On 12/28/12 1:17 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:06:53 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/28/2012 10:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:05:05 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: Glad you enjoy shopping so much. I can shop right here in my home town. When I visit some interesting place, the last thing I want to do is spend my time indoors shopping. === The LL Bean store in Freeport is well worth a visit. It is as much a cultural icon as it is a store. The only thing I've seen that even comes close is one of the really big Bass Pro stores like we have here in south Florida. Seriously, not trying to troll, but I have never been to anything like you describe. Can you be more specific? And of course the most important question, is "is there food there"? LOL! BPS here in Ft Myers has a pretty good restaurant, a couple of big aquariums and occasionally they have little product shows. The parking lot is full of BOATS There I actually used the "B" word! They are a Tracker/Mercury dealer. It is a 2 story megamart for sportsmen with all sorts of outdoorsy things. (fishing, hunting, camping, hiking, boating, pull toys/skis and outdoor yard games) There's a nice BPS just south of BWI Airport in Hanover, MD, that's very similar, in a huge mall. No restaurant in the BPS store, though. Haven't been up there in a while, heard there's a casino near the mall now, so probably won't go back. Wait until they build the new casino at National Harbor, just south of the Woodrow Wilson bridge on the Maryland side. I predict that the casinos in the rest of Maryland will migrate to National Harbor within 3 to 5 years. |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:33:22 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:34:28 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:51:11 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: My first real job was with the US Coast and Geodetic Survey, working the Minuteman sites in Sidney, NE and Minot, ND. Neither place was very exciting. I rode through the Badlands with some Guzzi friends from Holland. Very beautiful country. But, I wouldn't want to live there. I kept imagining a couple thousand Indians coming down and attacking our little motorcycle train. I agree the Dakotas are mostly a lot of nothing but we had a good time at the Minot state fair. We rented a boat in Beulah at the dam, toured the synfuel plant and took the Air Force tour in Minot. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Silo%20hatch.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/minute%20man.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/B52.jpg We also checked out Wall Drug and went to the rodeo http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Wall%20rodeo.jpg My favorite area is the Black Hills and on out through Wyoming. There are hundreds of miles of logging roads you can drive with nice hikes along the way. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/sylvan%20lake.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Danc...h%20wolves.jpg They have real convenience stores in Sturgis http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/convenience%20store.jpg Of course they have this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Rushmore%20profile.jpg We saw most of those, including Sturgis, on the motorcycle trip through the area. We arrived at Sturgis the week before the Harley Rally. All the vendors, or at least a huge number, had their tents up and their wares on display, so we had a nice couple days looking around. My headlight had gone out, and I was shopping for a bulb. Couldn't find one to fit the Guzzi in any of the places. Mt. Rushmore was a letdown. I don't know what I was expecting, but maybe it had to do with the distance from the mountain to the visitors' center. We didn't go on a mule ride or anything. It just seemed small after seeing all the telephoto shots everywhere. If you take the loop you walk pretty close to the base. It is not a North by Northwest thing hanging on Washington's nose but it is pretty close. We also spent time in the area so it seems every road you take, goes by Rushmore. That Iron Mountain road view is pretty cool, looking through the tunnel. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Iron...n%20Tunnel.jpg We also got pretty tired of Crazy Horse. It seemed like every logging road ended up on the one that dead ended there. We did find a cool restaurant out west of Rapid City on one of those dirt roads where they will catch a rainbow trout while you wait and cook it for you. We really liked Spearfish. We had a nice cabin there that backed up to the fire service road network. We drove almost all the way to Devil's tower one evening before we ever hit asphalt. If you go, get a green map. They have all the USFS roads on it. You can find places like this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Wyom...ate%20line.jpg We put about 1000 miles on driving these roads. That Suburban we had got pretty dirty. Cool. We did get to Devil's Tower, but that whole area was just a side stop on the way to Yellowstone. I was riding with a bunch of Netherlanders, and Yellowstone, followed by Grand Teton, was on the top of the 'see' list. We ended up spending about five days in Yellowstone. Then I had to take off for home. They continued on down through Las Vegas and points south before returning to Houston. |
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On 12/28/2012 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:
I don't know. I am sure Ford has fixed the problem, but it was a major failure mode from the late 90's to about 2006. They fixed it all right. That engine doesn't seem to be available anymore. They list a 6.2L V8 flex-fuel gasser and a 6.7L V8 diesel. |
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On Friday, December 28, 2012 7:02:36 PM UTC-5, BAR wrote:
In article , says... wrote in message ... On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:23:51 AM UTC-5, BAR wrote: Ford's V10 is a gas sucking pig. Yeah, but it's a very good hauling machine. With 360 HP and 460 ft/lb of torque, it'll move stuff. You just don't get that for free if you have to go gas instead of diesel. ----------------------------------------- Ford's V10 is one of the few gasoline engines that has the torque ratings of some similar sized diesels. It's too bad it developed a reputation for spitting out spark plugs. I didn't know that. The question then becomes does the increased gasoline cost and spark plug remediation cost more or less than the cost of the vehicle with a diesel engine? Good question since diesel engines have their own, unique sets of issues. |
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On 12/28/2012 4:51 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/28/2012 12:47 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:44:04 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/27/2012 8:11 PM, wrote: wrote: Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. I have a neighbor who bought a big 5th wheel trailer and a Ford F350 V10 a while back. The trailer sits in the driveway and he commutes to work in the F350. (?) He probably can't afford the gas to pull the trailer! They just don't use it. He's an interesting guy. He also has a nice economical car he could commute in but doesn't. He also has ****ed away much of his retirement savings with dubious sucker investments. He also weighs about 350 lbs and literally devours Krispy Kremes by the dozen. He also is an extreme right wing Rush & Fox News fan. Our wives are good friends but we don't seem to relate very well. Strange, most of the guys I know like that are Steve Cobert fans... but then again, you could have just made that part up. |
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On 12/28/2012 6:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 4:51 PM, thumper wrote: They just don't use it. He's an interesting guy. He also has a nice economical car he could commute in but doesn't. He also has ****ed away much of his retirement savings with dubious sucker investments. He also weighs about 350 lbs and literally devours Krispy Kremes by the dozen. He also is an extreme right wing Rush & Fox News fan. Our wives are good friends but we don't seem to relate very well. Strange, most of the guys I know like that are Steve Cobert fans... but then again, you could have just made that part up. Stephen Colbert? There surely are goofy Colbert fans but I don't think my neighbor is one of them. I don't know what he enjoys for comedy, probably the cable guy. |
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On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote: wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine. They did and that's a good thing? |
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On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. Keep shopping with OUR money, Krause. Until you settle with the IRS, it's not your money! |
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ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 12/27/2012 10:50 PM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote: wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine. Hope you learned something from that. I'm betting not. The funniest running gag on rec.boats is how you and several others make negative comments about the possessions of others but never or hardly ever discuss your own possessions or, of course, post photos of them. Did that come up in therapy, deadbeat? You got it wrong and defined yourself. |
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On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote: wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine. They did and that's a good thing? What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like pink cars and now junk cars... |
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On Friday, December 28, 2012 11:45:37 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote: wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine. They did and that's a good thing? What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like pink cars and now junk cars... Who's making excuses, MiniMan?? I simply state the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Got a job yet...paying down those numerous judgements, overdue taxes, hospital bills..etc, etc.? |
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JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote: wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine. They did and that's a good thing? What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like pink cars and now junk cars... Pink car, pink hair...pink is pink. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:49:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:55:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. How would you know that? They have a tremendous selection of camping gear, but I suppose you buy all your stuff over the internet. No, we have these things called stores right in my town! I DO however buy a lot online. You skipped the question. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:11:33 -0500, Meyer wrote:
On 12/28/2012 3:01 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 2:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/28/2012 2:13 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago Union shop?? Taste. You got all caught up in the window dressing. I didn't know you were into towels and bedding and foo foo stuff. And here I thought there was some cool hardware store at Tyson's Mall that I'd not seen. You're right, it's a bed bath and beyond place for tax cheats. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:51:34 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:24:40 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:11:12 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:28:34 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:20:09 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:42:52 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: True, but once you get up to those $300-$500 a night rooms, RV's start looking pretty good! Not unless you spend more than 3 weeks on the road a year. Just the amortization of the cost of the RV was more than we spent on rooms, rentacars and air fare when we ran the numbers with my RV owner neighbor (based on losing 50% of the purchase price in 5 years). That was a conservative guess Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. Those guys with a dually have a *big* dick, or so I've heard. The extra capacity afforded by the dually is about 1100lbs for the Silverado 2500 diesel. There are a bunch of cons. I needed that truck to haul stuff with. Actually, the one I had prior to this one hauled stuff, but I gave it to a nephew. If I am not picking up something like sheets of plywood I just take my Prelude. I can get a dozen 2x4 8s or 15 bags of concrete in there. These are cypress saw mill slats I got from a local mill for trim on my new book case http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Packing%20honda.jpg do they stick out the front windows? I like being able to take a load of trash to the dump and get a truck load of free mulch. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:51:00 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/28/2012 12:47 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:44:04 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/27/2012 8:11 PM, wrote: wrote: Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. I have a neighbor who bought a big 5th wheel trailer and a Ford F350 V10 a while back. The trailer sits in the driveway and he commutes to work in the F350. (?) He probably can't afford the gas to pull the trailer! They just don't use it. He's an interesting guy. He also has a nice economical car he could commute in but doesn't. He also has ****ed away much of his retirement savings with dubious sucker investments. He also weighs about 350 lbs and literally devours Krispy Kremes by the dozen. He also is an extreme right wing Rush & Fox News fan. Our wives are good friends but we don't seem to relate very well. We have a Krispy Kreme place a couple miles away where they make 'em while you watch. I could easily eat a dozen with a cup of coffee, which is why I stay away from the damn place. When our Dutch friends come over, that's one of the first places they want to head for. The other is Dairy Queen. Luckily, they only come over once every couple years. |
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says... On 12/28/12 2:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/28/2012 2:13 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The flagship store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town, including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit. Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog. Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still have questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and sizes on hand as the "home" store. Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting experience. I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time in at the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the Apple store and Restoration Hardware. I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled. I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a new pair. I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the 'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth. I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware. Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two weeks ago Union shop?? Taste. Taste? From a low life who can't even pay his friggin' taxes??? |
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says... On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:49:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:55:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere, shop and go to a mall. If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a great treat. I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping. And you didn't visit the LLBean store? No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to do than shop. The LLBean store has much more than just shopping. But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing. Care to enlighten me? They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop. How would you know that? They have a tremendous selection of camping gear, but I suppose you buy all your stuff over the internet. No, we have these things called stores right in my town! I DO however buy a lot online. You skipped the question. How would I know that? Well, dummy, there are online videos, pictures, reviews, blogs, stories, and I know people who've been there. |
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On 12/28/2012 4:51 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/28/2012 12:47 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:44:04 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/27/2012 8:11 PM, wrote: wrote: Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures - unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway. Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at home depot with a dually. I have a neighbor who bought a big 5th wheel trailer and a Ford F350 V10 a while back. The trailer sits in the driveway and he commutes to work in the F350. (?) He probably can't afford the gas to pull the trailer! They just don't use it. He's an interesting guy. He also has a nice economical car he could commute in but doesn't. He also has ****ed away much of his retirement savings with dubious sucker investments. He also weighs about 350 lbs and literally devours Krispy Kremes by the dozen. He also is an extreme right wing Rush & Fox News fan. Our wives are good friends but we don't seem to relate very well. Strange, most of the guys I know like that are Steve Cobert fans... but then again, you could have just made that part up. As you could have. |
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