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On 12/24/2012 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. Appliances, like Microwaves, might not work with the cheap square wave inverters. Honda's are nice. Work hard, last long. |
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On 12/24/2012 8:27 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/23/2012 8:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. Oh well... Looks like you are gonna' be one of "those guys".... Tent campers can see you coming a mile away. Tent camping in a RV park is like camping in your back yard. Why? There are so many places you can hike to to get away from "it all". |
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On 12/24/2012 8:47 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/24/2012 8:27 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 8:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. Oh well... Looks like you are gonna' be one of "those guys".... Tent campers can see you coming a mile away. Tent camping in a RV park is like camping in your back yard. Why? There are so many places you can hike to to get away from "it all". Not if you are camping out of necessity... Where we race, there are usually no rooms available, and we don't have a camper. |
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On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. |
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On 12/24/2012 9:09 AM, wrote:
On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. Yur marriage kind of shaky? |
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On 12/24/12 9:09 AM, wrote:
On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. Camping out in a tent was a lot of fun when I was a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout. We didn't have portable generators, of course, so we actually were camping out. We did have Coleman coolers, ice, lanterns, flashlights, bug spray, hatchets, et cetera. |
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says... On 12/24/2012 9:09 AM, wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. Yur marriage kind of shaky? Man, you crazy right wingers are sure quick with the ASSumptions. |
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says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. |
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On 12/24/12 9:09 AM, wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. Camping out in a tent was a lot of fun when I was a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout. We didn't have portable generators, of course, so we actually were camping out. We did have Coleman coolers, ice, lanterns, flashlights, bug spray, hatchets, et cetera. Is that how you justify not paying your taxes, that you needed the money for "Coleman coolers, ice, lanterns, flashlights, bug spray, hatchets, et cetera." |
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On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. |
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says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. But a real truck is far more convenient than just to sleep in. |
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On 12/24/2012 10:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. At one race it was so cold Jess slept in the Jeep with the seats down. We are pretty set up for decent tent camping but still, we are not camping for fun, but out of necessity. |
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says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. Dodge Aspen? Why did you ever buy a Dodge Aspen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Some of the most beautiful sights in the U.S. can really only be seen by hiking in and camping. I'm sure glad that I don't miss those opportunities. My 4x4 will get me to enough beautiful remote places to satisfy me. |
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On Monday, December 24, 2012 12:48:24 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. Dodge Aspen? Why did you ever buy a Dodge Aspen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. |
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says... In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. Dodge Aspen? Why did you ever buy a Dodge Aspen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Commonly known as the Dodge Recall!!! |
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, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Some of the most beautiful sights in the U.S. can really only be seen by hiking in and camping. I'm sure glad that I don't miss those opportunities. My 4x4 will get me to enough beautiful remote places to satisfy me. I fully understand that some people would rather seek total comfort as opposed to seeing things not everyone can see and getting some exercise in the process. One of the best experiences of my life was hiking for a month and a half on the AT. |
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says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 12:48:24 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. Dodge Aspen? Why did you ever buy a Dodge Aspen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. |
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On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 12:48:24 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:21:26 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Although my wife isn't interested in camping, I could, and have, slept in the back of a stationwagon. Funny...before I bought my last 2 new vehicles, I crawled in back to see if I could sleep in the cargo area if required. With the back seats down it's a tight fit in the back of the RAV4...laying kitty corner. You should have bought a man's vehicle like my F150 5.4L V8 SuperCrew. One person can sleep in the front seat and another can sleep in the back seat. Duh! Since the last time I actually did sleep out in the back of my Dodge Aspen stn Wagon was the day Princess Diana was killed, I would have wasted a lot of expensive gas since then. I just like to have the capacity if required. Dodge Aspen? Why did you ever buy a Dodge Aspen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. I got in the Datsun game too early! Don't remember what model it was, bought used, but it had carb problems upon carb problems. Hell, bought a brand new carb after putting two used ones on, and the new one was no better. Asked the guy at the parts store and he said he sold those things on a daily basis. Second Datsun, a 74 B210 was a much better car!! We won't even talk about the 69 VW sedan with automatic tranny. Engine ran fine, tranny not so much! |
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In article ,
says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. Had a Mustang that the unibody was so rusted from salt that one day I was driving along, heard a thump in the rear, and when I opened the trunk, the leaf spring was poking through! |
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On 12/24/2012 5:47 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/24/2012 8:27 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 8:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. Oh well... Looks like you are gonna' be one of "those guys".... Tent campers can see you coming a mile away. Tent camping in a RV park is like camping in your back yard. Why? There are so many places you can hike to to get away from "it all". My favorite campground is a normally peaceful mixed-use campground at the mouth of a great fishing river. I tow a boat instead of an RV and don't care if generators are running in Wall-Mart parking lots. |
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On 12/24/2012 2:14 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/24/2012 5:47 AM, Meyer wrote: On 12/24/2012 8:27 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 8:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. Oh well... Looks like you are gonna' be one of "those guys".... Tent campers can see you coming a mile away. Tent camping in a RV park is like camping in your back yard. Why? There are so many places you can hike to to get away from "it all". Tent camping in an rv park is what you do with your family when you don't have a camper but you still want to have some fun... My favorite campground is a normally peaceful mixed-use campground at the mouth of a great fishing river. I tow a boat instead of an RV and don't care if generators are running in Wall-Mart parking lots. |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:33:53 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." Oh, OK. My bad. Should have been more clear. I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. You know, I'd forgotten to check if this one had a power down mode when the load was reduced. What you say here makes some good sense. I may cancel the order and give the Honda more thought. I didn't know Kawasaki and Suzuki also made these things. |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:41:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. If I needed to do all of that to "camp" and I use the word very loosely here, I'd just stay home. Probably a good idea. |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0500, Meyer wrote:
On 12/24/2012 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. Appliances, like Microwaves, might not work with the cheap square wave inverters. Honda's are nice. Work hard, last long. OK, OK...enought already,.I'll cancel the friggin' order, mortgage my house (again) and buy a damn Honda. Maybe I can find one cheaper that $999.99 somewhere. |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:40:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If I use it at home, it would be only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I primarily wanted something I could throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't available. === 70 dB is not super quiet, not at all. These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level: http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html 70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB. Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are easy to carry and load into a truck. ....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not ex-hedge fund manager or writer for a union rag. --------------------------------------------- John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds. Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent! That's odd, I've camped all over the U.S. in all kinds of weather and did so perfectly fine without a generator or electricity. But then again, I actually camp, as opposed to just moving to a different location with all of the amenities of my home. I don't need a microwave, electric coffee maker, etc. to have a good experience. Yup, while motorcycle camping we did the same thing - all over the US (except for the great Southwest) and Europe. Now we've gotten older, and enjoy a mattress, coffee in the morning, the BBQ for steaks in the evening, and a stereo for Bluegrass Music. But, I think you should stick with a tent. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. My favorite campground isn't segregated. http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity, and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available. |
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On Monday, December 24, 2012 7:18:48 PM UTC-4, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 12/24/2012 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. Appliances, like Microwaves, might not work with the cheap square wave inverters. Honda's are nice. Work hard, last long. OK, OK...enought already,.I'll cancel the friggin' order, mortgage my house (again) and buy a damn Honda. Maybe I can find one cheaper that $999.99 somewhere. With that generous military pension I'm supprised you don't fill that overblown pickup with Honda generators. |
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On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. My favorite campground isn't segregated. http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity, and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available. BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water. |
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says... On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. Consumer Reports is useless. I bought my TV without consulting Consumer Reports. I bought many things without consulting Consumer Reports. |
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On 12/24/2012 6:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. My favorite campground isn't segregated. http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity, and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available. When you are young with a young family and don't have a camper, you tent camp at the nicer places so you have a general store, shower, and a pond or something... Sometimes camping isn't about seeing who can rough it the most, it's about just getting someplace where you can lay in the sun for a while and have a drink, a bonfire, and do a little laid back fishin with the kids.. |
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On 12/24/2012 7:37 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. My favorite campground isn't segregated. http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity, and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available. BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water. Exactly... |
Generator
On 12/24/2012 6:18 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 12/24/2012 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. Appliances, like Microwaves, might not work with the cheap square wave inverters. Honda's are nice. Work hard, last long. OK, OK...enought already,.I'll cancel the friggin' order, mortgage my house (again) and buy a damn Honda. Maybe I can find one cheaper that $999.99 somewhere. Just because folks are sharing experience with you doesn't mean you made the wrong choice for you. Seems to me like you have from what you have told us so far... Relax... Just "news grouping"... sharing experience and info on lot's of subjects. |
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