On 1/6/2012 2:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/6/12 2:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 1:14 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlep8GdnaB8xJGTv5rSnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning
about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream
onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us
packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for
half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at
the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to
pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice
for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a
week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and
assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in
1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority,
and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to
start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and
had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very
competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-043.pdf


Dock boys made a good living in those days.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...m_wage_in_1963

So, depending on when in 1963 you figure, his Dad paid anywhere from
3-14 times minimum wage to dock boys.. and harry was making from 5 - 28
times minimum wage... Ok, got it.



Play on, boys. I'm not joining in your games.

Not to worry. I got your back.

On Jan 6, 3:35*pm, Oscar
wrote:
On 1/6/2012 2:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:









On 1/6/12 2:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 1:14 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlep8GdnaB8xJGTv5rSnZ2dnUVZ_uCdn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message
news:u8sbg7l22f5kbp3q7hkih1ug73j6bvcfl4@4 ax.com...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning
about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream
onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us
packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for
half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at
the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to
pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966

=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice
for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a
week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and
assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in
1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority,
and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to
start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and
had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very
competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-043.pdf

Dock boys made a good living in those days.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...m_wage_in_1963

So, depending on when in 1963 you figure, his Dad paid anywhere from
3-14 times minimum wage to dock boys.. and harry was making from 5 - 28
times minimum wage... Ok, got it.

Play on, boys. I'm not joining in your games.

Not to worry. I got your back.

Maybe that's what Harry's afraid off..... after all, he promised
himself to his wife!

In article f065a5a1-a3cf-4451-9535-760d3bcdfc57
@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 6, 3:35*pm, Oscar
wrote:
On 1/6/2012 2:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:









On 1/6/12 2:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 1:14 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlep8GdnaB8xJGTv5rSnZ2dnUVZ_uCdn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message
news:u8sbg7l22f5kbp3q7hkih1ug73j6bvcfl4@4 ax.com...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning
about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream
onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us
packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for
half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at
the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to
pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966

=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice
for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a
week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and
assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in
1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority,
and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to
start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and
had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very
competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-043.pdf

Dock boys made a good living in those days.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...m_wage_in_1963

So, depending on when in 1963 you figure, his Dad paid anywhere from
3-14 times minimum wage to dock boys.. and harry was making from 5 - 28
times minimum wage... Ok, got it.

Play on, boys. I'm not joining in your games.

Not to worry. I got your back.

Maybe that's what Harry's afraid off..... after all, he promised
himself to his wife!

And Don's the first to start the crap!

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:24:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 5, 2:24*pm, Canuck57 wrote:


For me, it makes no sense to own. *Being in southern Alberta, no real
decent lakes (there are a few but crowded) it saves me dragging it all over.
--

But that's one of the beauties of a smaller trailer boat. It's paid
for, doesn't eat much, can be hooked to an any or no given notice, and
even head for a small lake 25 mi away (Omega Lake), run what you brung
and go home. No appointments, no real travel time, no hassles.

Kinda nice in the middle of the summer to drag the boat to work (4 mi)
the at 5, head for the lake, boat/relax for about 2-21/2 hrs, and be
home by 9pm right when the sun is down. did that 2-3 times a week a
couple years ago.

Sometimes it was just the boat, a life vest and a cold bottle of
water., and me of course.

very peaceful

I hate to say it, Tim, but it's much nicer skipping the work part and just going to the water!

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:01:34 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Hell, I was making more than that as a fry-cook at Garst's Drive-In in Sedalia, MO, in 1963. You
must have your dad's pay way off.

On 1/6/12 3:02 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jan 6, 3:35 pm, Oscar
wrote:
On 1/6/2012 2:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:


Play on, boys. I'm not joining in your games.

Not to worry. I got your back.

Maybe that's what Harry's afraid off..... after all, he promised
himself to his wife!

Let it go. The snarks are not worth a response.

On 1/6/2012 5:26 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/6/12 3:02 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jan 6, 3:35 pm, Oscar
wrote:
On 1/6/2012 2:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:


Play on, boys. I'm not joining in your games.

Not to worry. I got your back.

Maybe that's what Harry's afraid off..... after all, he promised
himself to his wife!

Let it go. The snarks are not worth a response.

OK I'll let it go, but snarky remarks like that are just going to put us
back where we were.

On 1/6/2012 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:52:04 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

We were paid nearly three times the minimum wage at that time, plus
bennies.

Minimum wage in 1963 was about a buck an hour.

Actually from what I read, it was $.25 an hour till sometime in 1963
when President Kennedy raised it to $1.25...

On 1/6/2012 4:03 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:01:34 -0500, wrote:

On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Hell, I was making more than that as a fry-cook at Garst's Drive-In in Sedalia, MO, in 1963. You
must have your dad's pay way off.

Guess so... can't ask him now though.

On Jan 6, 3:00*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:24:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:24 pm, Canuck57 wrote:

For me, it makes no sense to own. Being in southern Alberta, no real
decent lakes (there are a few but crowded) it saves me dragging it all over.
--

But that's one of the beauties of a smaller trailer boat. It's paid
for, doesn't eat much, can be hooked to an any or no given notice, and
even head for a small lake 25 mi away (Omega Lake), run what you brung
and go home. No appointments, no real travel time, no hassles.

Kinda nice in the middle of the summer to drag the boat to work (4 mi)
the at 5, head for the lake, boat/relax for about 2-21/2 hrs, and be
home by 9pm right when the sun is down. *did that 2-3 times a week a
couple years ago.

Sometimes it was just the boat, a life vest and a cold bottle of
water., and me *of course.

very peaceful

I hate to say it, Tim, but it's much nicer skipping the work part and just going to the water!

i can appreciate that.....