On 1/6/12 11:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

I have no idea, but I know my dad who was a teamster didn't make the
kind of money he claimed he made as part time summer help, for at least
10-15 years, like the early 70's to mid 70's...

The base pay for a starting machinist (me) in 1979 was around $6.50 an
hour plus piece work... I averaged 8-11 bucks an hour then and I was the
fastest in my department...


1. I wasn't "part-time" "summer" help. I was full time.
2. Our benefits were priced out as part of our hourly.
3. Your father worked under a totally different contract.

On 1/6/12 12:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for
NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

I have no idea, but I know my dad who was a teamster didn't make the
kind of money he claimed he made as part time summer help, for at least
10-15 years, like the early 70's to mid 70's...

The base pay for a starting machinist (me) in 1979 was around $6.50 an
hour plus piece work... I averaged 8-11 bucks an hour then and I was the
fastest in my department...

As a matter of fact, if you look here at these figures, you will see
that the average pay for Americans in 1963 was about 5800 dollars, or
about $2.70 per hour... But if Harry said he was making $7 as a teamster
in 1963, who am I to argue?


oooops, forgot the link... here it is.
http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1963.html
sorry...


Heheheh.

On 1/6/2012 11:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.


I believe you. Why wouldn't I?

On 1/6/2012 11:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlep8GdnaB8xJGTv5rSnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-043.pdf


Dock boys made a good living in those days.

On 1/6/2012 12:10 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/6/12 11:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for
NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

I have no idea, but I know my dad who was a teamster didn't make the
kind of money he claimed he made as part time summer help, for at least
10-15 years, like the early 70's to mid 70's...

The base pay for a starting machinist (me) in 1979 was around $6.50 an
hour plus piece work... I averaged 8-11 bucks an hour then and I was the
fastest in my department...


1. I wasn't "part-time" "summer" help. I was full time.
2. Our benefits were priced out as part of our hourly.
3. Your father worked under a totally different contract.


I can't imagine why he would think you are lying.

On 1/6/2012 12:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for
NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

I have no idea, but I know my dad who was a teamster didn't make the
kind of money he claimed he made as part time summer help, for at least
10-15 years, like the early 70's to mid 70's...

The base pay for a starting machinist (me) in 1979 was around $6.50 an
hour plus piece work... I averaged 8-11 bucks an hour then and I was the
fastest in my department...

As a matter of fact, if you look here at these figures, you will see
that the average pay for Americans in 1963 was about 5800 dollars, or
about $2.70 per hour... But if Harry said he was making $7 as a teamster
in 1963, who am I to argue?

Teamsters had a way to get their members paid more than they were worth.
That's the only possible explanation.

On 1/6/2012 1:21 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for
NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

I have no idea, but I know my dad who was a teamster didn't make the
kind of money he claimed he made as part time summer help, for at least
10-15 years, like the early 70's to mid 70's...

The base pay for a starting machinist (me) in 1979 was around $6.50 an
hour plus piece work... I averaged 8-11 bucks an hour then and I was the
fastest in my department...

As a matter of fact, if you look here at these figures, you will see
that the average pay for Americans in 1963 was about 5800 dollars, or
about $2.70 per hour... But if Harry said he was making $7 as a teamster
in 1963, who am I to argue?

Teamsters had a way to get their members paid more than they were worth.
That's the only possible explanation.

My dad was a Teamster back then, he worked for First National (grocery
chain). If he was making that much, mom wouldn't have had to work so
hard all those years

On 1/6/2012 1:10 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half
the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the
same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay
most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for
NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.


I believe you. Why wouldn't I?

Because he is saying he was making over 500% minimum wage in 1963.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...m_wage_in_1963

and nearly twice what other teamsters were averaging at the time...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_were_..._wages_in_1968

Pretty good for a kid with no seniority. Since we are calling BS, I also
question how a kid with no seniority gets to the highest paying (and
easiest) job on the floor (General Warehouseman/Forklift Operator)
unless he was the only guy in the shop. Anybody who has ever worked in
a union warehouse knows that ain't gonna' fly....

On 1/6/2012 1:14 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlep8GdnaB8xJGTv5rSnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for
half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at
the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to
pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice
for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-043.pdf


Dock boys made a good living in those days.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...m_wage_in_1963

So, depending on when in 1963 you figure, his Dad paid anywhere from
3-14 times minimum wage to dock boys.. and harry was making from 5 - 28
times minimum wage... Ok, got it.

On 1/6/12 2:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 1:14 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 11:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlep8GdnaB8xJGTv5rSnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 1/6/12 11:12 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in
the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning
about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a
forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was
higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys
who
set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up
before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for
half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered
doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at
the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to
pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice
for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a
week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and
assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me
thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 /
week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in
life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.

Why would he lie about it? He has no sane reason to try to impress
anyone here at this late stage in the game.

My father paid his "adult" (16 and over) dockboys $3.50 an hour to
start
during the mid to late 1950's. I got less because I was younger and had
other perks, being the son of the owner. Wages were very competitive in
the Greater New Haven area in those days, what with all the
manufacturing going on. Lots of defense contracting. Companies had to
pony up to get qualified workers.

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-043.pdf


Dock boys made a good living in those days.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_t...m_wage_in_1963

So, depending on when in 1963 you figure, his Dad paid anywhere from
3-14 times minimum wage to dock boys.. and harry was making from 5 - 28
times minimum wage... Ok, got it.



Play on, boys. I'm not joining in your games.