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says... On 1/5/12 1:56 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1962, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 I made a buck more the following year loading beer delivery trucks at a local brewery. The third summer I got placed through the Boilermakers union and did a little better learning to clean out and repair huge boilers that came back to the factory on rail flatcars. Through the mid 1960's, the New Haven area was a hotbed of manufacturing and plants competed for workers who were willing to work. The boiler factory job was the toughest job physically I ever had. Climbing into boilers in the hot summer sun to clean tubes and and and reweld was enough to make me sweat and feel like Niagara Falls every day. The boiler company paid in cash every Friday at 3 pm. An armored car would come onto the property and hand out pay envelopes. The end of my junior year, my dad got me a job with Ruger Firearms. Bill Ruger was a customer and friend of his. In fact, Ruger had a Porsche Speedster and when he came by to visit my dad, he let me drive it around the marina. But I didn't take that job...I was hired by the Kansas City Star to start working that summer as a reporter, and I worked there and then when my senior year of college started, I was asked if I wanted to work through my final two semesters. Of course I did. So I was on campus a couple of days a week for classes but from 4 pm to 12:30 am, I was a newspaperman. Great days and great memories. When I was in my teens, probably 14 or so, my brother worked for a company that made wooden school chairs and desks. They paid in cash, and had a contract with the government to clean money. Every coin that came out of there was brand new shiny, and the bills were clean and crisp. They sorted bills and returned ripped, worn, written on, etc. back to the government. |
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On 1/5/12 2:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , dump-on- says... On 1/5/12 1:56 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1962, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 I made a buck more the following year loading beer delivery trucks at a local brewery. The third summer I got placed through the Boilermakers union and did a little better learning to clean out and repair huge boilers that came back to the factory on rail flatcars. Through the mid 1960's, the New Haven area was a hotbed of manufacturing and plants competed for workers who were willing to work. The boiler factory job was the toughest job physically I ever had. Climbing into boilers in the hot summer sun to clean tubes and and and reweld was enough to make me sweat and feel like Niagara Falls every day. The boiler company paid in cash every Friday at 3 pm. An armored car would come onto the property and hand out pay envelopes. The end of my junior year, my dad got me a job with Ruger Firearms. Bill Ruger was a customer and friend of his. In fact, Ruger had a Porsche Speedster and when he came by to visit my dad, he let me drive it around the marina. But I didn't take that job...I was hired by the Kansas City Star to start working that summer as a reporter, and I worked there and then when my senior year of college started, I was asked if I wanted to work through my final two semesters. Of course I did. So I was on campus a couple of days a week for classes but from 4 pm to 12:30 am, I was a newspaperman. Great days and great memories. When I was in my teens, probably 14 or so, my brother worked for a company that made wooden school chairs and desks. They paid in cash, and had a contract with the government to clean money. Every coin that came out of there was brand new shiny, and the bills were clean and crisp. They sorted bills and returned ripped, worn, written on, etc. back to the government. Money laundering! |
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 ============================= Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week. Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year. |
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On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ... On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 ============================= Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week. Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year. If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life. |
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On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 ============================= Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week. Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year. If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life. There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963... sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most. |
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On 1/6/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote: On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 ============================= Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week. Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year. If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life. There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963... sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most. In fact, in 1982 I was making 7-11 dollars an hour at Standadyne as a machinist, and remember my dad telling me I was making nearly as much as he was... and he had been on the top tier of pay as a senior seniority General Warehouseman... That was twenty years after Harry says he made 7 an hour as a part time warehouseman in the union... And so, it starts.... |
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On 1/6/12 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote: On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man wrote: I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the government That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about $7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts, picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most of your own expenses. I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966 ============================= Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week. Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year. If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life. There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963... sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most. It wasn't a warehouse, it was a factory. I happened to work out of the shipping and receiving department, loading finished product and unloading coils of steel and other industrial materials. We were paid nearly three times the minimum wage at that time, plus bennies. The $7 an hour package included the bennies, such as health care and our retirement fund, and a couple of other items. It's been a long time, but I recall the bennies were worth close to $3.00 an hour. It's not an unusual model: many construction unions have similar contracts...a $40 an hour compensation, of which $12 to $15 or more goes to bennies. There was another job I could have taken through another union during that time period, another factory that made electrical motors. The starting pay was a little higher. I don't remember why I took the job I did instead of the other one. Whatever your dad's experience, it was just anecdotal, just like mine was just anecdotal. |
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