Bob D. wrote:
This is long, but sumitted for two reasons:

1) I do like telling the story, and hope you find it entertaining

2) To dispute Harry's "facts" that all Bayliners are crappy an cannot
possibly take weather.

My first powerboat was a 16 foot bayliner Capri Cuddy with an 85HP Force
Outboard. In the one season I owned her, I put close to 250 miles on it,
in Lake Erie, in everything from dead calm to 6-8 foot waves.

You measure your boat usage in miles? And in one season you put on 250
miles? Wow. You're some experienced boater, especially when you were
taking on those six to eight foot waves in your 16' Bayliner.

A few weeks ago, I put 250+ miles on one of my boats over a three day
weekend. But I didn't encounter any eight-footers. I check the weather
before I head out, and if eight-footers are predicted, I find something
else to do that day.

Maybe it is because I have no desire to win a Darwin Award.



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Harry,
If I didn't go out when the forecast was for 6-8 foot seas, I would
probably be restricted to about 10 days a year that I could cross the
gulf stream
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Harry Krause wrote:
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A few weeks ago, I put 250+ miles on one of my boats over a three day
weekend. But I didn't encounter any eight-footers. I check the weather
before I head out, and if eight-footers are predicted, I find something
else to do that day.

Maybe it is because I have no desire to win a Darwin Award.

A few weeks ago, I put 250+ miles on one of my boats over a three day
weekend. But I didn't encounter any eight-footers. I check the weather
before I head out, and if eight-footers are predicted, I find something
else to do that day.


Interesting. You put 250+ miles in a three day weekend. Something *I
also Have done* , Just not on a sixteen foot boat.

Harry what difference does it make whether I use miles, nautical miles
or hours? If your such a purist why did you use the term?

I use the term miles because it better implies experience. Anyone could
put 500 hours on an engine trolling, that would far exceed my time on
the boat, but not necessarily my experience. I have no problem standing
by my terminology, and no problem in considering your need to dismiss my
terminology as stupid arrogance.

Going out in eight footers is NOT my first choice for boating, but if
family and work comittments call, and I'm already away from homeport, it
may be considered.

But as I've seen in other posts, you've ignored the point. Choosing
instead to pick apart inconsequencial points of my argument.


Maybe it is because I have no desire to win a Darwin Award.


We only regret that your ancestors didn't feel the same way...

BOB wrote:


A few weeks ago, I put 250+ miles on one of my boats over a three day
weekend. But I didn't encounter any eight-footers. I check the weather
before I head out, and if eight-footers are predicted, I find something
else to do that day.


Interesting. You put 250+ miles in a three day weekend. Something *I
also Have done* , Just not on a sixteen foot boat.

Harry what difference does it make whether I use miles, nautical miles
or hours? If your such a purist why did you use the term?

It makes no difference to me. It just makes you look silly.




I use the term miles because it better implies experience. Anyone could
put 500 hours on an engine trolling, that would far exceed my time on
the boat, but not necessarily my experience.

Really? Miles equals experience? Not necessarily.



I have no problem standing
by my terminology, and no problem in considering your need to dismiss my
terminology as stupid arrogance.

I don't believe your terminology is stupid arrogance. More like stupid
ignorance.



Going out in eight footers is NOT my first choice for boating, but if
family and work comittments call, and I'm already away from homeport, it
may be considered.

As I stated, stupid ignorance. Unless you have to do so, going out in a
small boat on the Great Lakes while eight foot waves are about is stupid
ignorance. It puts you at great risk. And it also puts at great risk
those who might have to go out after you. It's dumb. We're not talking
eight-foot ocean swells here.


Maybe it is because I have no desire to win a Darwin Award.


We only regret that your ancestors didn't feel the same way...


No, they didn't. And they passed along genes to me that make me bright
enough to not want to earn one, either.

Perhaps you feel more comfortable with the Forrest Gump Award: Stupid is
as stupid does.


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