Bob D. wrote:
In article , Harry Krause
wrote:
Bob D. wrote:
Oh? Have you? I thought as much.
In article , Harry Krause
wrote:
Bob D. wrote:
I have yet to see anyone offer any significant
empirical data, even significant anectdotal evidence, that any
boat of a
given brand name is clearly superior or inferior to another brand name,
when factoring in things like initial cost, and care.
Oh? Try going 30 miles offshore in a Bayliner and a boat of similar
sized designed for ocean use.
I've been "offshore" in a few Bayliner Trophies. Never again. I also
went a mile offshore in the Atlantic out a fairly rough inlet in a
Bayliner 55' motor yacht. What a piece of crap that was...it couldn't
keep up with boats 20' shorter.
Interesting. Were you out demoing that 55 footer, or was it someone
personal boat?
Neither.
You never answered that original question in you more general
statements, so I am still curious, if the situation presents itself, and
you see somone you don't know, in a bayliner would you (anyone who
dislikes bayliners) call their boat a piece of crap to their face?
Depends. If it was a little Bayliner and the experienced,
250-miles-a-year-boater was heading out into eight-foot waves, yeah, I'd
probably tell him he had a crappy boat, unsuited for what he was intending.
But.... Here's some anectdotal evidence of my own...
In the 2 1/2 seasons I've owned my second hand 17 year old Bayliner I've
logged over 1,000 miles. My trips ranged from 20 to 300 miles in weather
ranging from dead calm to 4-6 foot waves (according to the NWS bulletin
and buoy data). Other than having the Volvo outdrive rebuilt, and a
broken bimini cap, I've had no problems.
Previous to that, I owned a little Bayliner 16 foot cuddy. In the one
season I owned her, I put close to 250 miles on it. Once again this
vessel has been out in everything from dead calm to 6-8 foot waves.
Should you read my other post "A Bayliner Story... ", by your logic of a
smaller boat traveling rough seas faster, proves a larger vessels
inferiority, then my crappy bayliner is better than a 25ft
Lyman/Skiff-Craft, or a 30-35 foot Sedans.
I don't think your old Bayliner is better, nor would I head out in six
to eight foot waves in my 36' boat, and it is built to take that kind of
stuff. What I think is that you are no brighter than another Bayliner
owner who used to post here and who claimed he took on 30' waves in his
22' Bayliner
I could cite more anectdotes but I think I've clearly made my point. So
what's my point?
That you are a really careless, foolhardy boater? You've convinced me.
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