On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:36:43 -0400, wrote:

I don't run any sort of inline filter, but if you are having trouble,
due to rust or bad gas, I would suggest that 19 micron is pretty
coarse as your defense. I would have a 10 as my coarse filter and a 2
micron filter between that and the engine.

The filter is good advice. We were having problems with our 4 stroke
Honda dinghy engine until I added an external filter. Since adding
the filter, no problems. When I dump out the filter after changing
the element, there is always a fair amount of crud and water.

On Jul 27, 9:23*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:36:43 -0400, wrote:
I don't run any sort of inline filter, but if you are having trouble,
due to rust or bad gas, I would suggest that 19 micron is pretty
coarse as your defense. I would have a 10 as my coarse filter and a 2
micron filter between that and the engine.

The filter is good advice. * We were having problems with our 4 stroke
Honda dinghy engine until I added an external filter. * Since adding
the filter, no problems. * When I dump out the filter after changing
the element, there is always a fair amount of crud and water.

QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts
wrote:

QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts

Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt. A professional fuel polisher with a good
reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. He
also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller
"clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. Smaller clumps are
desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of
the tank and clog the fuel feed.

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. I've also used it myself with good results.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts
wrote:

QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts

Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt. A professional fuel polisher with a good
reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. He
also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller
"clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. Smaller clumps are
desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of
the tank and clog the fuel feed.

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. I've also used it myself with good results.



I also use Sta-Bil - marine formula.
Our marina still has non-alcohol contaminated fuel at the gas pump.
But I sometimes do bring in auto gas, and other marinas - who knows?

So far, no problems, though.



--

Richard Lamb

On Jul 27, 1:52*pm, cavelamb wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts
wrote:

QUESTION / SURVEY *(NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
* * I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. *It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. *The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. *As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. *When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. *I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. *Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. *Have you noticed a difference? *Good or bad? *any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts

Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt. * A professional fuel polisher with a good
reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. *He
also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller
"clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. *Smaller clumps are
desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of
the tank and clog the fuel feed.

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. *I've also used it myself with good results.

I also use Sta-Bil - marine formula.
Our marina still has non-alcohol contaminated fuel at the gas pump.
But I sometimes do bring in auto gas, and other marinas - who knows?

So far, no problems, though.

--

Richard Lamb

Get ready for this problem to get much worse and to waste far more oil
than it saves. Marinas are soon not going to be able to get ethanol
free fuels and the ethanol content is due to increase. The economic
cost of ethanol in fuel runs into the tens of billions each year with
as much fuel dumped due to being contaminated with water as leaked
during the gulf oil spill. The ethanol in fuel is one of the
stupidest things ever to be pushed by enviro types and had done more
damage to the environment than the gulf oil spill.
Consider the millions of people with small gas engines who when
finding the fuel is bad simply dump it on the ground.Consider millions
of boaters who find they have an entire fuel tank with contaminated
fuel simply dump it because there is no good way to dispose of it.
The damage done by the use of such fuel is greater than anything BP
could have done.

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says...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts
wrote:

QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts

Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt. A professional fuel polisher with a good
reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. He
also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller
"clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. Smaller clumps are
desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of
the tank and clog the fuel feed.

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. I've also used it myself with good results.



I also use Sta-Bil - marine formula.
Our marina still has non-alcohol contaminated fuel at the gas pump.
But I sometimes do bring in auto gas, and other marinas - who knows?

So far, no problems, though.

Is this "Cave Lamb Himself" ???

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts
wrote:

QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts
Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt. A professional fuel polisher with a good
reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. He
also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller
"clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. Smaller clumps are
desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of
the tank and clog the fuel feed.

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. I've also used it myself with good results.


I also use Sta-Bil - marine formula.
Our marina still has non-alcohol contaminated fuel at the gas pump.
But I sometimes do bring in auto gas, and other marinas - who knows?

So far, no problems, though.

Is this "Cave Lamb Himself" ???



No, that's the other one...

--

Richard Lamb

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:09:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. I've also used it myself with good results.

Star-Tron is the way to go. I've been using it now for a couple of
years in both the Grady and Ranger - not a hickup. Sta-Bil did have
some problems a few years ago when ethanol was first introduced and
were late to the party, but they also changed their forumulation a
little to adjust. Star-tron was formulated for ethanol gasolines - I
think the representative said up to 20% ethanol, but don't quote me on
that - it was at the Boston Boat Show a couple/three years ago.

So far, it's been great.

On Jul 27, 1:28*pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:09:02 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. *I've also used it myself with good results.

Star-Tron is the way to go. I've been using it now for a couple of
years in both the Grady and Ranger - not a hickup. Sta-Bil did have
some problems a few years ago when ethanol was first introduced and
were late to the party, but they also changed their forumulation a
little to adjust. *Star-tron was formulated for ethanol gasolines - I
think the representative said up to 20% ethanol, but don't quote me on
that - it was at the Boston Boat Show a couple/three years ago.

So far, it's been great.

Where do you get the stuff, Tom? auto parts store?

I'll be checking in on it because the new hydrogenated gas-o-hol's are
a concern on my aged 85 hp SeaHorse.

On Jul 27, 11:09*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts

wrote:
QUESTION / SURVEY *(NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT)
* * I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring
"Star-Tron" fuel additive. *It claims to resolve ethanol problems as
well as "old" gas. *The deisel version claims to reduce biological
growth in the tank. *As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest
and helpful as possible. *When I point out the product, many customers
tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. *I
am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. *Please let
me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used
it. *Have you noticed a difference? *Good or bad? *any anecdotes are
welcome.

Fair winds and good gas,
Jayhearts

Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt. * A professional fuel polisher with a good
reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. *He
also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller
"clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. *Smaller clumps are
desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of
the tank and clog the fuel feed.

For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people
that I know. *I've also used it myself with good results.

I use the regular Sta-Bil around the house, and the Marine Sta-Bil on
the boat with every tank at the maintenance dose. It doesn't get
stored long enough in "winter" to worry about it. Never had an issue.