On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

I have knowledge of sales people. The pushier they are, the quicker
they find themselves at the door with a cheerful goodbye.

I'm not saying that I haven't had the urge to be rude back, my sense
of etiquette won't allow it. That's what I come to rec.boats for.


I find it oddly strange for you and Harry to be giving lectures on etiquette
and social graces.


hehe

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
I have knowledge of sales people. The pushier they are, the quicker
they find themselves at the door with a cheerful goodbye.

I'm not saying that I haven't had the urge to be rude back, my sense
of etiquette won't allow it. That's what I come to rec.boats for.

I find it oddly strange for you and Harry to be giving lectures on etiquette
and social graces.


hehe

--Vic



It would take next to no effort to repost the snotty comments emanating
from Eisboch the last few months, which makes it oddly strange for him
to be commenting on etiquette and social graces.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:57:16 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
I have knowledge of sales people. The pushier they are, the quicker
they find themselves at the door with a cheerful goodbye.

I'm not saying that I haven't had the urge to be rude back, my sense
of etiquette won't allow it. That's what I come to rec.boats for.

I find it oddly strange for you and Harry to be giving lectures on etiquette
and social graces.


hehe

--Vic



It would take next to no effort to repost the snotty comments emanating
from Eisboch the last few months, which makes it oddly strange for him
to be commenting on etiquette and social graces.

I have noticed he's taken off the kid gloves.
But so what? You can hardly complain.
Always takes to tango. Hey. tango. That reminds me.

--Vic

HK wrote:
Zombie of Woodstock wrote:

Know any good psychiatrists that will work for non-Union wages?

Oh - damn it - did it again.

I'm sorry - I said I wouldn't but I did. I can't help it - I'm very
concerned for a fellow human being in obvious distress.


Surely there are mental health practitioners in your part of the state
who can help with your obvious distress. Don't you have health
insurance? I'm sure you have some sort of coverage.

BTW, most (but not all) psychiatrists aren't really in the "therapy"
business anymore. They do initial interviews, arrange various medical
tests, prescribe and adjust meds, and consult with therapists in their
group or with outside therapists. Most psychotherapy these days is
provided by licensed psychiatric social workers, licensed mental health
counselors and, to a lesser degree, licensed psychologists.

You seem to be aware of the latest happenings in the shrink business.
Are you in therapy now?

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:57:16 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
I have knowledge of sales people. The pushier they are, the quicker
they find themselves at the door with a cheerful goodbye.

I'm not saying that I haven't had the urge to be rude back, my sense
of etiquette won't allow it. That's what I come to rec.boats for.
I find it oddly strange for you and Harry to be giving lectures on etiquette
and social graces.

hehe

--Vic


It would take next to no effort to repost the snotty comments emanating
from Eisboch the last few months, which makes it oddly strange for him
to be commenting on etiquette and social graces.

I have noticed he's taken off the kid gloves.
But so what? You can hardly complain.
Always takes to tango. Hey. tango. That reminds me.

--Vic





I'm not complaining. It's just another example of right-wing
hypocrisy...criticizing others for behavior in which you yourself engage.

The Argentinian connections prompted me to look for good examples of
tango dancing on you tube, *and* Argentine Rocca, a famous wrestler
during my youth who often performed at the New Haven Arena. He wasn't
from Argentina, but he developed the Argentine Rack, a special move.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:23:52 -0400, HK wrote:



The Argentinian connections prompted me to look for good examples of
tango dancing on you tube, *and* Argentine Rocca, a famous wrestler
during my youth who often performed at the New Haven Arena. He wasn't
from Argentina, but he developed the Argentine Rack, a special move.

I remember Rocca. Had a nick of something of the Pampas.
Raging Bull of the Pampas?
Gorgeous George, Killer Kowalski, Verne Gagne, Seaman Art Thomas,
are some of the others. What a carnival. Fun to watch, and plain
corny. And the tag teams were especially entertaining.
Outgrew it pretty quick though.

--Vic

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
I had a security (alarm) system installed yesterday. The sales guy
had visited last week and although he talked my ear off about things I
had no interest in, we successfully entered into a contract and
scheduled the installation.

The installers did a great job. They took the time to explain how
everything works. Like most microprocessor based systems it is
capable of far more than I will ever need or want.
I like simple, so I asked the installers for the easiest way to arm
and disarm the system.
My shop is so small I don't even need the option of "away" and "stay"
modes.

They said the easiest way is to simply punch in my code when I leave.
After a 60 second delay the system becomes fully armed. When I want
to re-enter, just enter and punch the code in within a certain time
frame to disable. Simple enough.

This morning the sales dude shows up again to "inspect" the
installer's work. This guy is a classic sales type. Talks too much
and doesn't know what he's talking about. He wanted to sit and go
over all the programming features and options on the system. I
politely told him I really had no need for them and was very satisfied
with the simple procedure that the installers described (and
demonstrated).

He wouldn't give up. Kept insisting that he show me all the
options. I kept trying to explain (during his short moments of
silence) that I didn't need or want to learn about all the feature.
Don't need them.

He continued. I was slowly losing patience. I described the very
simple and basic procedure the installers showed me. The sales dude
said they were wrong. It wouldn't arm the motion sensors, according
to him.

Now I am starting to get a little fired up. I explained again for
the third time that we demonstrated it while the installers were
there. We all stayed in the building, I armed the system by entering
my code and, after the delay the system armed. As soon as one of us
moved, the alarm went off, sensed by the motion sensors.

The sales guy said it can't be. You *have* to select one of the
modes. I said, "no you don't".
He tried again to instruct me on all the features.

By this time I had lost it. I told him he talked too much and
doesn't *listen* to what is being said.
He replied with, "Richard, I am a security expert".

I responded with, "You are a pain in the ass and don't listen. Get
out of here; you are really starting to **** me off."

He tries again to yap about the system "features". I got up from
behind the counter. I think he saw the look in my eye because he beat
feet out the door, got in his BMW and drove off.

After I calmed down I called the security company (ADT) for technical
assistance. They confirmed that the procedure I was using worked
fine. I mentioned that the sales guy says it won't.
She said to listen and do what the installers said and that the sales
types really don't always know what they are talking about.

I thanked her and told her if she sees a nervous sales type in a BMW
arrive at the office, be kind because I just threw him out of my
shop. She laughed like hell and said, "GOOD!"

Eisboch




On Tuesday, our new refrigerator was delivered and installed. The two
guys handling the delivery showed up exactly on time. They had
deliveries all over southern Maryland, having started out the morning in
North Carolina.

The refrigerator was unboxed on the front walk. The lead guy took some
measurements, and decided he could use the extra room he'd get by
unhinging the front door and the screen door.

The guys carried the refrigerator in, carried it over the wood floors,
and set it down on the tile floor in the kitchen.

The second guy removed all the tape on the inside, wiped down the
refrigerator, even though it had just come out of a box, and then hooked
up the water line and electric line.

As soon as he was finished, the guys rolled the new refrigerator into
its cubby, and the lead guy leveled it and then made sure all the
functions were working properly, and there was no damage anywhere.

Then he and his helper reinstalled the two doors and left.

Great guys, and I told them so. I gave each one a $20 and my thanks.

An hour later, their supervisor called to see what sort of job they did.
I told them that on a scale of 10, they rated a 10.

This morning, I got a call from my local Husqvarna dealer, telling me a
part I had ordered arrived. I drove over to pick it up. Went up to the
counter, the nice lady there asked my name, and she went to the
storeroom to get the part. She opened up the packed, checked the
contents against the call-out sheet in her parts book, and said "a
washer was missing." So, she went to the shop and came back with a
couple of washers.

Life is a lot easier when you're not a hothead, Eisboch.



You are beyond narcissism, WAFA.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

I have knowledge of sales people. The pushier they are, the quicker
they find themselves at the door with a cheerful goodbye.

I'm not saying that I haven't had the urge to be rude back, my sense
of etiquette won't allow it. That's what I come to rec.boats for.


I find it oddly strange for you and Harry to be giving lectures on etiquette
and social graces.

Eisboch

Well, let's reverse the situation.

If I'd have said I threw a pushy salesman out of my office this
morning after listening to him for too long. And had to verbally
assault him and physically impose my presence in order to get him to
leave, what would you have said?

Well done?

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:36:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:11:11 -0700, jps wrote:

Maybe you should take breathing lessons from Yogi and Boo Boo (Tom and
The Freak).

The auditions for the WAFA 2 role don't start until next week.

You're in the Bahamas and posting on rec.boats?

WTF is wrong with you? Certainly something.

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:23:52 -0400, HK wrote:


The Argentinian connections prompted me to look for good examples of
tango dancing on you tube, *and* Argentine Rocca, a famous wrestler
during my youth who often performed at the New Haven Arena. He wasn't
from Argentina, but he developed the Argentine Rack, a special move.

I remember Rocca. Had a nick of something of the Pampas.
Raging Bull of the Pampas?
Gorgeous George, Killer Kowalski, Verne Gagne, Seaman Art Thomas,
are some of the others. What a carnival. Fun to watch, and plain
corny. And the tag teams were especially entertaining.
Outgrew it pretty quick though.

--Vic

Ahhh...the midget tag teams!