On 2008-10-22 00:03:25 -0400, Larry said:

Justin C wrote in
:

Unfortunately the only crew places I find are racing, which, though
enjoyable, are not the type of sailing I really want to be doing. I
read this newsgroup to learn from those who have done it, are doing it,
or have other interesting facts to pass on.

Justin, you've been hanging out in the wrong places!

Excellent post. The only thing I could add would be to show up in
spring as owners are getting things ready: fixing, sanding, varnishing
and so forth. Even if you don't know anything, just having you around
giving them a reason to keep working instead of taking a break will let
them get far more done. They'll be amazed how much "you" did and of
course think of you when they need crew to take their
too-big-for-singlehanding boat out.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008102206411416807-
jerelull@maccom:

Excellent post. The only thing I could add would be to show up in
spring as owners are getting things ready: fixing, sanding, varnishing
and so forth. Even if you don't know anything, just having you around
giving them a reason to keep working instead of taking a break will let
them get far more done. They'll be amazed how much "you" did and of
course think of you when they need crew to take their
too-big-for-singlehanding boat out.



How true!

He'll get plenty of sailing in. I'm sorry I forgot about seasonal boating
up Nawth. We have a CORA race on New Years Day in Charleston. The sailing
season is from Jan 1st thru December 31st, here.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:16:32 +0000, someone posting as Larry purportedly
wrote:

The sailing season is from Jan 1st thru December 31st, here.

Jan1-Dec31 eh? Nobody likes you Larry.

--
if it was easy, everyone would do it

wordsmith wrote in news:UPadnSdEJp1GSWLVnZ2dnUVZ_j-
:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:16:32 +0000, someone posting as Larry
purportedly
wrote:

The sailing season is from Jan 1st thru December 31st, here.

Jan1-Dec31 eh? Nobody likes you Larry.


Hey! We have a special "program"! Yankees are allowed to dump their
snowbound roots, like I did, and move SOUTH, permanently. Yankees with
money are especially welcomed! There's 3200 miles of navigable
waterways within 50 miles of my keyboard on the Ashley River. Plenty of
space for all. You can cruise around, lost, for hours and never see
another boat!

The "Witches Brew Regatta" is this weekend. You can catch the next one
in a few weeks after they sober up and fix their boats from it.

http://www.charlestonoceanracing.org/

Come show your stuff in May:

http://www.charlestontobermuda.com/
http://charlestontobermuda.com/mg2/index.php?id=13


I always like the Gulfstreamer:
http://www.thegulfstreamer.com/notice.htm

Look he
http://secure.smilebox.com/ecom/openTheBox?sendevent=
4d7a4d354d6a6b324e673d3d0d0a&campaign=blog_playbac k_link
Doesn't that look like more fun than shoveling and watching the fuel oil
man pour money down that hole in the lawn?


........and oh, the PARTIES! Charleston Shrimp, Oysters roasted on the
dock, BLUE CRABS from under your boat! Yum Yum! The commercial
crabbers have 3 pots just out in front of my place. We had some fresh
off his boat!

He
http://www.charlestonoceanracing.org...008RACINGPROSC
HEDULE/tabid/223/Default.aspx
You'll need the schedule.....(c;

Putting a boat up for the winter is just CRAZY!

On Oct 22, 7:53*pm, Larry wrote:
wordsmith wrote in news:UPadnSdEJp1GSWLVnZ2dnUVZ_j-
:



On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:16:32 +0000, someone posting as Larry
purportedly
wrote:

The sailing season is from Jan 1st thru December 31st, here.

Jan1-Dec31 eh? *Nobody likes you Larry. *

Hey! *We have a special "program"! *Yankees are allowed to dump their
snowbound roots, like I did, and move SOUTH, permanently. *Yankees with
money are especially welcomed! *There's 3200 miles of navigable
waterways within 50 miles of my keyboard on the Ashley River. *Plenty of
space for all. *You can cruise around, lost, for hours and never see
another boat!

The "Witches Brew Regatta" is this weekend. *You can catch the next one
in a few weeks after they sober up and fix their boats from it.

http://www.charlestonoceanracing.org/

Come show your stuff in May:

http://www.charlestontobermuda.com/h...ndex.php?id=13

I always like the Gulfstreamer:http://www.thegulfstreamer.com/notice.htm

Look hehttp://secure.smilebox.com/ecom/openTheBox?sendevent=
4d7a4d354d6a6b324e673d3d0d0a&campaign=blog_playbac k_link
Doesn't that look like more fun than shoveling and watching the fuel oil
man pour money down that hole in the lawn?

.......and oh, the PARTIES! *Charleston Shrimp, Oysters roasted on the
dock, BLUE CRABS from under your boat! *Yum Yum! *The commercial
crabbers have 3 pots just out in front of my place. *We had some fresh
off his boat!

Hehttp://www.charlestonoceanracing.org...008RACINGPROSC
HEDULE/tabid/223/Default.aspx
You'll need the schedule.....(c;

Putting a boat up for the winter is just CRAZY!

lets see, bad food, a few storms that local builders have yet to
figure how to keep the lid on a house in, 120% humidity,
folks who sound like they have mud in mouth, you cant touch the beach
cause some fool has a fence down it, heat heat and more heat, a well
deserved reputation for being a toxic zone, no real trees, termites
cockroaches and fire ants, high unemployment, the very high chance
that in the next 50 years you will be underwater, tornados, no
privacy.
and oh ya Southerners. just the kind of place i always wanted.
while here i have none of the above and it costs me 60$ a year to heat
my house. I think i can handle it.
oh and folks are not welcome to come live here; we are full up.
however you can visit and spend your money if you like. when you run
out, dont let the door hitcha where the good loard splitya.

I sure do miss the signs that said "welcome to oregon enjoy your
visit!"

In article , Bob wrote:
On Oct 21,

I forgot to ask Justin,
what part of the country do you live?

I'm in no part of your country Bob, I'm in the UK! I live on the south
coast, but a long way from the better sailing areas ... France isn't too
far though.

WRT not taking the tales told on this newsgroup as the best way of
"doing it", I do take what I read with a pinch of salt - and in some
cases a liberal sprinkling. Reading some discussions that go on I find
some peoples attitudes seem slap-dash, while others go so far to the
other extreme sailing almost seems a secondary activity. But the
contrast does make me think about the problem/situation or whatever it
is, and I hope I'm intelligent enough that when I come to be in a
similar situation I'm able to make a sensible decision.

What is the Mahina report you mentioned? I did a quick Google and
couldn't figure out to what you were referring.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

In article 2008102206411416807-jerelull@maccom, Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-10-22 00:03:25 -0400, Larry said:

Justin C wrote in
:

Unfortunately the only crew places I find are racing, which, though
enjoyable, are not the type of sailing I really want to be doing. I
read this newsgroup to learn from those who have done it, are doing it,
or have other interesting facts to pass on.

Justin, you've been hanging out in the wrong places!

Excellent post. The only thing I could add would be to show up in
spring as owners are getting things ready: fixing, sanding, varnishing
and so forth. Even if you don't know anything, just having you around
giving them a reason to keep working instead of taking a break will let
them get far more done. They'll be amazed how much "you" did and of
course think of you when they need crew to take their
too-big-for-singlehanding boat out.

For some reason Larry's post didn't make it to my server, I've just been
and read it on Google, so this reply is to Larry.

It's not easy hanging around the docks here. The only option I have is a
local marina which is locked down so tight that from the 'public' side,
where we can look at the boats without needing a swipe-card for entry,
it's a half-mile walk around to the gate to give the guy a hand... and
that's if he heard you yell across to him in the first place!

Most of the boats here never move at all, and most work seems to be
carried out by the local yard.

I hear what you're saying, Larry, and am trying! I don't have a lot of
manual skills, my job is desk-bound, but I'm a practical person and have
no problem getting my hands dirty. I've just gotta get one of those
swipe-cards without paying for a berth.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:23:06 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

I've just gotta get one of those
swipe-cards without paying for a berth.

Perhaps you could launch a dinghy somewhere nearby and motor around
the docks from the water side as you get to meet people?

On 2008-10-23 19:23:06 -0400, Justin C said:

It's not easy hanging around the docks here. The only option I have is a
local marina which is locked down so tight that from the 'public' side,
where we can look at the boats without needing a swipe-card for entry,
it's a half-mile walk around to the gate to give the guy a hand... and
that's if he heard you yell across to him in the first place!

Then it seems the racing crowd is the way to go at first. I expect that
crew have some way of getting in without a slip holder being there.
Marina security usually isn't as tight as it seems. It's strong enough
only to keep the casual criminal and riff-raff at bay.

Once you get your foot in the door, so to speak, and you're recognized
as enthusiastic and/or capable crew, other opportunities will present
themselves. BTW, that "recognized" is literal. If you're around a lot,
crewing, chatting and offering help, other dockmates will remember.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Justin C wrote in
:

I hear what you're saying, Larry, and am trying! I don't have a lot of
manual skills, my job is desk-bound, but I'm a practical person and have
no problem getting my hands dirty. I've just gotta get one of those
swipe-cards without paying for a berth.



Hmm...I'm sorry marinas have come to that where you live. We have gates,
but they are only closed at night to prevent looting. I have the codes....

I only stay aboard any more if I get to bombed to drive at dock
parties...which I seem interested in less and less, any more.

Wonder what would happen if you just happen to be hanging out in the
parking lot when a card holder needed to carry a bunch of stuff to his
boat. "Here, let me help you carry that...", as you follow him through the
gate with his stuff.

As you can see, I'm a professional wheedler....(c; Don't try this at
home...

Oh, another word of advise if you're going to try this. NEVER bring any of
your friends to the docks. Always come alone. You don't want to bring
others to your new friend's boat....unless HE invites you to...

Good luck getting through the gate. Oh, the main head code number is
13452, if you gotta pee...(c;

damned locks.