"Roger Long" wrote in
:

I'm typing this on an ASUS Eee PC I bought yesterday at Best Buy.
It's about the size and weight of a thin hardback book, uses Window XP
(Probably the last XP machine available), and has solid state memory
instead of a hard disk. No drives or card slot but three USB ports
and MMC/SD card slot as well as Ethernet & video connectors. Nice
screen with some cool zooming and panning features that make it's more
than adequate size and clarity even easier to use. Built in webcam.



If you buy a Serial to USB adapter like this:

http://www.electronicproductonline.c...hp?cPath=35_67
&products_id=1803&osCsid=02348a8645bc5c88ee61b13b3 3e7c519

(It comes with a CD manual and drivers for your WinXP that turn one USB
port into a COM serial port.)

Then, you can input NMEA data and the AIS receiver to the tiny PC and run
The Cap'n or other nav software on it, totally automating chart plotting,
trip planning, autopilot steerage, etc., just like the big boys have!

For your application, the XP model is probably best. I have a friend with
the Ubuntu Linux version which is much faster and leaves lots more memory
storage because the operating system is tiny in comparison to WinXP
bloatware.

Skype runs great on it....even with the webcam for Live TV!

Nice little PC, but little support from the computing community.

On Sep 25, 2:04 pm, Larry wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote :

I'm typing this on an ASUS Eee PC I bought yesterday at Best Buy.
It's about the size and weight of a thin hardback book, uses Window XP
(Probably the last XP machine available), and has solid state memory
instead of a hard disk. No drives or card slot but three USB ports
and MMC/SD card slot as well as Ethernet & video connectors. Nice
screen with some cool zooming and panning features that make it's more
than adequate size and clarity even easier to use. Built in webcam.

If you buy a Serial to USB adapter like this:

http://www.electronicproductonline.c...info.php?cPath...
&products_id=1803&osCsid=02348a8645bc5c88ee61b13b3 3e7c519

(It comes with a CD manual and drivers for your WinXP that turn one USB
port into a COM serial port.)

Then, you can input NMEA data and the AIS receiver to the tiny PC and run
The Cap'n or other nav software on it, totally automating chart plotting,
trip planning, autopilot steerage, etc., just like the big boys have!

For your application, the XP model is probably best. I have a friend with
the Ubuntu Linux version which is much faster and leaves lots more memory
storage because the operating system is tiny in comparison to WinXP
bloatware.

Skype runs great on it....even with the webcam for Live TV!

Nice little PC, but little support from the computing community.

I have the smaller Asus ee with 7" screen and the great thing about it
is that it runs Linux and boots up in 20 seconds instead of the 4
minutes of a Vista trash machine. When in airports or anywhere with
wifi, I can check my e-mail, answer them, shut it and be putting it
away before everybody else's Vista or Windows machines have booted.

wrote in news:1067971e-5f9d-4aab-b310-
:

I have the smaller Asus ee with 7" screen and the great thing about it
is that it runs Linux and boots up in 20 seconds instead of the 4
minutes of a Vista trash machine. When in airports or anywhere with
wifi, I can check my e-mail, answer them, shut it and be putting it
away before everybody else's Vista or Windows machines have booted.



My Linux machine is the Nokia N800 Linux Internet Tablet, with a lot of
mods from the Linux hackers at the Maemo linux garage:
http://www.maemo.org/
where our freeware comes from.

The little tablet only runs at 400 Mhz on an ARM processor, but is like
you say very fast booting and running in Linux, not Bloatware. Hell,
the Gnumeric Spreadsheet app and Abiword full-featured word processor
are only a few MB of code.

Bootup is a little slowed because I have two 16GB SDHC Class 6 memory
cards stuffed with movies, music, map tiles for Maemo Mapper and
Wayfinder GPS programs, ebooks, and other stuff like documentaries, TV
comedy shows from BBC TV, etc. Maemo looks through the files during
bootup and it takes a while to wade through my piles....(c;

It's still WAY faster then even an 80GB WinXP Pro Gateway laptop.
During the bootup process, if you autoconnect through BT to the BT DUN
connected sellphone broadband, it isn't through displaying the logos
before Linux has the internet online and running....THEN displays the
home screen...(c;

Google Nokia N800 and Nokia N810. We have many videos. We stole the
Wii Remote video game controller for our games. Some smartasses wanted
to connect USB devices the tablet was never intended to support, so come
Canadians are buildling a little miniUSB to USB femail adapter with
appropriate electronics to hardware force the USB chipset into HOST/OTG
mode. Recently, I've installed some scripts and a wired LAN driver so I
can use the tablet on the directly connected LAN at home at 100Mbps,
instead of the Wifi radio link which is slower to respond. A Linksys
tiny USB 100M USB-to-Ethernet adapter runs off the router's DC on the
Cat5 cable and feeds the tablet's USB with internet,
directly.....totally cool in a portable device. I can connect to even
the Motorola Z6m sellphone's memory card (2GB) and move files on and off
over the bluetooth FTP and OBEX protocols to load and unload pictures,
music and my phone book.

Unhobbled like your Asus by the sellphone company bureaucrats, the
little Linux tablet is very addictive and new stuff comes out every
week!
http://maemo.org/downloads/updated/OS2008/275/
these apps are "released" for users. Hundreds more are in development,
which we're invited to help with, over in the garage area:
http://garage.maemo.org/

Larry wrote:
wrote in news:1067971e-5f9d-4aab-b310-
:


I have the smaller Asus ee with 7" screen and the great thing about it
is that it runs Linux and boots up in 20 seconds instead of the 4
minutes of a Vista trash machine. When in airports or anywhere with
wifi, I can check my e-mail, answer them, shut it and be putting it
away before everybody else's Vista or Windows machines have booted.




My Linux machine is the Nokia N800 Linux Internet Tablet, with a lot of
mods from the Linux hackers at the Maemo linux garage:
http://www.maemo.org/
where our freeware comes from.

The little tablet only runs at 400 Mhz on an ARM processor, but is like
you say very fast booting and running in Linux, not Bloatware. Hell,
the Gnumeric Spreadsheet app and Abiword full-featured word processor
are only a few MB of code.

Bootup is a little slowed because I have two 16GB SDHC Class 6 memory
cards stuffed with movies, music, map tiles for Maemo Mapper and
Wayfinder GPS programs, ebooks, and other stuff like documentaries, TV
comedy shows from BBC TV, etc. Maemo looks through the files during
bootup and it takes a while to wade through my piles....(c;

It's still WAY faster then even an 80GB WinXP Pro Gateway laptop.
During the bootup process, if you autoconnect through BT to the BT DUN
connected sellphone broadband, it isn't through displaying the logos
before Linux has the internet online and running....THEN displays the
home screen...(c;

Google Nokia N800 and Nokia N810. We have many videos. We stole the
Wii Remote video game controller for our games. Some smartasses wanted
to connect USB devices the tablet was never intended to support, so come
Canadians are buildling a little miniUSB to USB femail adapter with
appropriate electronics to hardware force the USB chipset into HOST/OTG
mode. Recently, I've installed some scripts and a wired LAN driver so I
can use the tablet on the directly connected LAN at home at 100Mbps,
instead of the Wifi radio link which is slower to respond. A Linksys
tiny USB 100M USB-to-Ethernet adapter runs off the router's DC on the
Cat5 cable and feeds the tablet's USB with internet,
directly.....totally cool in a portable device. I can connect to even
the Motorola Z6m sellphone's memory card (2GB) and move files on and off
over the bluetooth FTP and OBEX protocols to load and unload pictures,
music and my phone book.

Unhobbled like your Asus by the sellphone company bureaucrats, the
little Linux tablet is very addictive and new stuff comes out every
week!
http://maemo.org/downloads/updated/OS2008/275/
these apps are "released" for users. Hundreds more are in development,
which we're invited to help with, over in the garage area:
http://garage.maemo.org/


Find me a decent CAD to replace my beloved Design CAD and I'll convert
to Linux. Or a way to run without it (Wine still needs Win).

Until then, it ain't gonna happen.

I recently replaced my old Dell laptop (running 98 SE) with a Thinkpad
clone running XP.

XP ain't half bad (for Windoze) (once ya get the hang of it).

The USB connectivity is certainty more consistent.
And it boots quickly. Up in 30 seconds.
But I don't load a bunch of web stuff.

I used to be strictly a Cad and spreadsheet guy.

But these days, playing DVDs, photoshop, and cutting new movies rank up
there time wise.

But the think that keeps Ubuntu in the box is the CAD issue.


--

Richard

(remove the X to email)

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
m...
Larry wrote:
wrote in news:1067971e-5f9d-4aab-b310-
:


I have the smaller Asus ee with 7" screen and the great thing about it
is that it runs Linux and boots up in 20 seconds instead of the 4
minutes of a Vista trash machine. When in airports or anywhere with
wifi, I can check my e-mail, answer them, shut it and be putting it
away before everybody else's Vista or Windows machines have booted.




My Linux machine is the Nokia N800 Linux Internet Tablet, with a lot of
mods from the Linux hackers at the Maemo linux garage:
http://www.maemo.org/
where our freeware comes from.

The little tablet only runs at 400 Mhz on an ARM processor, but is like
you say very fast booting and running in Linux, not Bloatware. Hell, the
Gnumeric Spreadsheet app and Abiword full-featured word processor are
only a few MB of code.

Bootup is a little slowed because I have two 16GB SDHC Class 6 memory
cards stuffed with movies, music, map tiles for Maemo Mapper and
Wayfinder GPS programs, ebooks, and other stuff like documentaries, TV
comedy shows from BBC TV, etc. Maemo looks through the files during
bootup and it takes a while to wade through my piles....(c;

It's still WAY faster then even an 80GB WinXP Pro Gateway laptop. During
the bootup process, if you autoconnect through BT to the BT DUN connected
sellphone broadband, it isn't through displaying the logos before Linux
has the internet online and running....THEN displays the home
screen...(c;

Google Nokia N800 and Nokia N810. We have many videos. We stole the Wii
Remote video game controller for our games. Some smartasses wanted to
connect USB devices the tablet was never intended to support, so come
Canadians are buildling a little miniUSB to USB femail adapter with
appropriate electronics to hardware force the USB chipset into HOST/OTG
mode. Recently, I've installed some scripts and a wired LAN driver so I
can use the tablet on the directly connected LAN at home at 100Mbps,
instead of the Wifi radio link which is slower to respond. A Linksys
tiny USB 100M USB-to-Ethernet adapter runs off the router's DC on the
Cat5 cable and feeds the tablet's USB with internet, directly.....totally
cool in a portable device. I can connect to even the Motorola Z6m
sellphone's memory card (2GB) and move files on and off over the
bluetooth FTP and OBEX protocols to load and unload pictures, music and
my phone book.

Unhobbled like your Asus by the sellphone company bureaucrats, the little
Linux tablet is very addictive and new stuff comes out every week!
http://maemo.org/downloads/updated/OS2008/275/
these apps are "released" for users. Hundreds more are in development,
which we're invited to help with, over in the garage area:
http://garage.maemo.org/


Find me a decent CAD to replace my beloved Design CAD and I'll convert
to Linux. Or a way to run without it (Wine still needs Win).

Until then, it ain't gonna happen.

I recently replaced my old Dell laptop (running 98 SE) with a Thinkpad
clone running XP.

XP ain't half bad (for Windoze) (once ya get the hang of it).

The USB connectivity is certainty more consistent.
And it boots quickly. Up in 30 seconds.
But I don't load a bunch of web stuff.

I used to be strictly a Cad and spreadsheet guy.

But these days, playing DVDs, photoshop, and cutting new movies rank up
there time wise.

But the think that keeps Ubuntu in the box is the CAD issue.


Friends don't let friends use Vista.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:15:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Friends don't let friends use Vista.

It actually runs pretty well on a Quad Core desktop with 4 GB of
memory and a fast hard disk. :-)

I'm liking it better than I thought I would but there is still some
software that won't run.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:15:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Friends don't let friends use Vista.

It actually runs pretty well on a Quad Core desktop with 4 GB of
memory and a fast hard disk. :-)

I'm liking it better than I thought I would but there is still some
software that won't run.



I've had nothing but problems with it when trying to support those who have
it. Yeah, I'm sure it's quite adequate with a Quad and 4gigs. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
lid says...


Friends don't let friends use Vista.

I was co-author of a "VISTA for idiots" type book. As such, was a beta
tester
on Vista. I could not wait to banish it from my system as soon as the
project
was done. Indeed, friends don't let friends use Vista. Except for one
module,
voice recognition. Excellent. Wish I could find such a module that would
run
on XP.



I had a friend who needed VR. I think he used Dragon and hated it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Gogarty wrote:

In article lutions,
lid says...


Friends don't let friends use Vista.


I was co-author of a "VISTA for idiots" type book. As such, was a beta tester
on Vista. I could not wait to banish it from my system as soon as the project
was done. Indeed, friends don't let friends use Vista. Except for one module,
voice recognition. Excellent. Wish I could find such a module that would run
on XP.


Many years back I worked for the University of Delaware in the Office of
Instructional Technology.

These were the DOS days, of course.

We had video overlays on DOS screens, text to voice and voice
recognition projects up and running - under DOS - on 33 Mhz ATs.

So it's not a technology thing, as much as a business thing.

That's ny opinion - for what it's worth.

--

Richard

(remove the X to email)

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:28:20 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

If there is one thing this thread reveals, it is our ages.

Did we all walk five miles to school in the snow uphill both ways?

They hadn't yet invented walking.