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btw, rhys, have *you* ever purposely spun an airplane?(indeed, do you even

know
how?) Wendy has, for the fun of it. She will do just fine as a sailor.


Flying is flying, and sailing is sailing. I think they are two different
and distinct skill sets, and proficiency in one will not necessarily
indicate proficiency in the other, navigation notwithsanding. While events
occur much more rapidly in an airplane than in a boat, what is more
important is that the dimensional and situational aspects are completely
different, and thus require different skill sets. I can fly. I can't sail-
haven't got a clue what to do when decision time rolls around as regards
reefing, what sail to set, etc. The fact that I was able to learn how to
fly indicates that I might be able to learn how to sail. No more, no less.

Wendy


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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:32:13 GMT, "Wendy"
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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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btw, rhys, have *you* ever purposely spun an airplane?(indeed, do you even

know
how?) Wendy has, for the fun of it. She will do just fine as a sailor.


Flying is flying, and sailing is sailing. I think they are two different
and distinct skill sets, and proficiency in one will not necessarily
indicate proficiency in the other, navigation notwithsanding. While events
occur much more rapidly in an airplane than in a boat, what is more
important is that the dimensional and situational aspects are completely
different, and thus require different skill sets. I can fly. I can't sail-
haven't got a clue what to do when decision time rolls around as regards
reefing, what sail to set, etc. The fact that I was able to learn how to
fly indicates that I might be able to learn how to sail. No more, no less.

You will be able to learn to sail. It is flying (gliding) at the
boundary between two fluids, with foils scaled to fit the fluid. But
Please!! learn to sail before you start worrying about what kind of
boat you want.

You will learn to sail fastest in a boat barely big enough to hold
you. That is because you will feel the effect of everything you do
very soon.




Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

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simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
- Richard Dawkins, "Viruses of the Mind"
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You will learn to sail fastest in a boat barely big enough to hold
you. That is because you will feel the effect of everything you do
very soon.


Yah, I've got a 17' Hobie Cat now- very fast, very twitchy. It's the sport
model, with no jib, but it's loads of fun. I've learned a lot on it ("how
to upright your catmaran" was the first lesson I'd just like to step up
to something a bit more serious.

Wendy


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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:37:20 GMT, "Wendy"
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"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message
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You will learn to sail fastest in a boat barely big enough to hold
you. That is because you will feel the effect of everything you do
very soon.


Yah, I've got a 17' Hobie Cat now- very fast, very twitchy. It's the sport
model, with no jib, but it's loads of fun. I've learned a lot on it ("how
to upright your catmaran" was the first lesson I'd just like to step up
to something a bit more serious.

OK, but don't assume that 'more serious'='bigger.' You couldn't get
much more serious than a 49er, for example (not a singlehander--I am
not suggesting it for you). It is only 15 feet long.

For honing sailing skills, and especially seat-of-pants instincts, a
serious one-design fleet is more important than what the boat is. If
there were a fleet of Europe dinghies that you could join (womens'
Olympic singlehander) you could learn really fast. Everyone would help
you, and you would see your progress objectively.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the
simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
- Richard Dawkins, "Viruses of the Mind"
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:37:20 GMT, "Wendy"
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OK, but don't assume that 'more serious'='bigger.' You couldn't

get
much more serious than a 49er, for example (not a

singlehander--I am
not suggesting it for you). It is only 15 feet long.

For honing sailing skills, and especially seat-of-pants

instincts, a
serious one-design fleet is more important than what the boat

is. If
there were a fleet of Europe dinghies that you could join

(womens'
Olympic singlehander) you could learn really fast. Everyone

would help
you, and you would see your progress objectively.


I learned to sail in a 12' sailing skiff that was a local
backyard built boat. It was very tender and if you switched your
gum to the other side of your mouth, you end up swimming. In
righting the boat you remembered what you did wrong and didn't do
that again. It was suggested to sail a Europe and along with that
I would pick the Sunfish, Laser, or a Force 5 as a learning tool.
Everything there can be applied to a large boat.

Leanne
s/v Fundy




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true. for sail trim. for "cruising" in a sailboat there are a couple of
skills that might not fit under the catagory called "sail trim".

would pick the Sunfish, Laser, or a Force 5 as a learning tool.
Everything there can be applied to a large boat.



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true. for sail trim. for "cruising" in a sailboat there are a couple of
skills that might not fit under the catagory called "sail trim".

would pick the Sunfish, Laser, or a Force 5 as a learning tool.
Everything there can be applied to a large boat.



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"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:37:20 GMT, "Wendy"
wrote:

OK, but don't assume that 'more serious'='bigger.' You couldn't

get
much more serious than a 49er, for example (not a

singlehander--I am
not suggesting it for you). It is only 15 feet long.

For honing sailing skills, and especially seat-of-pants

instincts, a
serious one-design fleet is more important than what the boat

is. If
there were a fleet of Europe dinghies that you could join

(womens'
Olympic singlehander) you could learn really fast. Everyone

would help
you, and you would see your progress objectively.


I learned to sail in a 12' sailing skiff that was a local
backyard built boat. It was very tender and if you switched your
gum to the other side of your mouth, you end up swimming. In
righting the boat you remembered what you did wrong and didn't do
that again. It was suggested to sail a Europe and along with that
I would pick the Sunfish, Laser, or a Force 5 as a learning tool.
Everything there can be applied to a large boat.

Leanne
s/v Fundy


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And *please* don't assume that sail trim skills define the universe of skills
desireable in a cruising sailor.

don't assume that 'more serious'='bigger.' You couldn't get
much more serious than a 49er, for example (not a singlehander--I am
not suggesting it for you). It is only 15 feet long.

For honing sailing skills, and especially seat-of-pants instincts, a
serious one-design fleet is more important than what the boat is. If
there were a fleet of Europe dinghies that you could join (womens'
Olympic singlehander) you could learn really fast. Everyone would help
you, and you would see your progress objectively.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the
simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
- Richard Dawkins, "Viruses of the Mind"








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And *please* don't assume that sail trim skills define the universe of skills
desireable in a cruising sailor.

don't assume that 'more serious'='bigger.' You couldn't get
much more serious than a 49er, for example (not a singlehander--I am
not suggesting it for you). It is only 15 feet long.

For honing sailing skills, and especially seat-of-pants instincts, a
serious one-design fleet is more important than what the boat is. If
there were a fleet of Europe dinghies that you could join (womens'
Olympic singlehander) you could learn really fast. Everyone would help
you, and you would see your progress objectively.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the
simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
- Richard Dawkins, "Viruses of the Mind"










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