Scotty wrote:

What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?


shaun wrote:
I never mentioned BLUE WATER friendly.....as i said no flames please
and by the way blue water friendly means to me at least a boat that does
not get green over the coach roof in 10 or 12 foot sea's.spray water
runoff and the odd foamer down the deck yes but not green water.


Well, the H-34 (you mean this one?)
http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...30&fno=0&bts=T
has plenty of reserve bouyancy, I expect you'd be
complaining more about the bouncy wet ride than green water
over the deck.

Hunters seem to concentrate on roominess rather than any
other particular aspect, the H34 is *palatial* inside
compared to almost anything else in that size/age/price
range. And they aren't slow pokey sailers, either.

The biggest problems Hunters (the American ones, I mean)
have is that they are somewhat underbuilt and often have
systems problems. The most common complaint I've heard from
guys who have cruised them hard is that the steering breaks
down.

BTW Hunter has always been a low-priced mass-produced boat.
So people who say 'The old ones are better built' or some
variation on the theme, 'The late '80s models started having
QA problems' etc etc are probably reflecting anecdotal
evidence rather than serious decision-influencing data. A
close personal inspection of the individual boat in question
is the only way to tell what it's built like, or more
importantly what it's maintenance has been.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

BTW Hunter has always been a low-priced mass-produced boat.
So people who say 'The old ones are better built' or some
variation on the theme, 'The late '80s models started having
QA problems' etc etc are probably reflecting anecdotal
evidence rather than serious decision-influencing data.



Our full service yard on City Island has done many many repairs on
Hunters, often insurance work and on occasion, some waranty work. We
have no doubt at all that models from the early to mid 80's held up
better than models in the 90's, at least in our NY climate.
Quite recently we have several new Hunter boats operating via charter
with us and they appear to be far better built. Talking to full service
yards and surveyors will give some general indication of problems you
might face. A yard like ours, which does not carry a new line of boats
is likely to be more honest about repair history.


Robert
35s5
NY

"Capt" Rob wrote:
.... Talking to full service
yards and surveyors will give some general indication of problems you
might face. A yard like ours, which does not carry a new line of boats
is likely to be more honest about repair history.


That would be good advice, as long one avoids pretend
"surveyors" and internet-fantasy boatyards. There is no
substitute for checking things out in person.

DSK

That would be good advice, as long one avoids pretend
"surveyors" and internet-fantasy boatyards.



Sorry about Doug, folks. He continues to be a troll. BTW, he has no
sailboat. The yard he insists doesn't exist can be seen here for
example....on my webpage:

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

I sell sailboats for them and my friend runs the service dept. Previous
to that Anthony Serling handled some warranty work for Hunter in the
mid 90's, including the oil-canning problems that were solved with SS
bars...also done at our yard.
But those problems of the 90's have no bearing on the 80's boats which
are far less prone to deck problems for example. I recently sold a
Hunter 43 which was very well maintained, yet was showing wear at a
higher than acceptable rate.
Please keep in mind that my observations and those of our service dept.
is generally with boats in this area, with all due consideration to our
weather. Boats in different areas will wear differently of course. For
our area boats with severe delamination issue rep's a
Irwin, Catalina, Ericson, and later Hunters.
BTW, in spite of what poor DSK says if anyone in my area needs storage,
slips, service, sails and canvas...contact me to avoid higher prices.
We are the best yard in the area...and I keep my boats there as well.
It's a truly honestly run place and they look out for your investment.
Again, I apologize for DSK. He can't seem to understand that this is
not ASA.


Robert
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

That would be good advice, as long one avoids pretend
"surveyors" and internet-fantasy boatyards.



Sorry about Doug, folks. he has no
sailboat.

Your point being?

sailboat.

Your point being?



The point is that this is not ASA. How about some respect for the folks
here who actually own and sail their boats?
If you want to chase me around the web and troll, you're wasting your
time. I'm sure everyone is waiting for your group info on problems with
Somerset and UK lofts.
Grow up.



Robert
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
sailboat.

Your point being?



The point is that this is not ASA. How about some respect
for the folks
here who actually own and sail their boats?
If you want to chase me around the web and troll, you're
wasting your
time. I'm sure everyone is waiting for your group info on
problems with
Somerset and UK lofts.


And what has this to do with weather DSK owns a sailboat or
not?





Grow up.

You sound like a 4 YO.

SBV

"Capt. Rob" spammed

That would be good advice, as long one avoids pretend
"surveyors" and internet-fantasy boatyards.



Sorry about Doug, folks. He continues to be a troll. BTW,
he has no
sailboat. The yard he insists doesn't exist can be seen
here for
example....on my webpage:

http://hometown.aol.com/boobsprit/paige1.html

I sell sailboats for them



Always trust the word of a used boat salesman.

"Capt" Rob wrote
Sorry about Doug, folks. He continues to be a troll. BTW,
he has no sailboat. The yard he insists doesn't exist can be seen
here for
example....on my webpage:

http://hometown.aol.com/boobsprit/paige1.html

I sell sailboats for them


Without a broker's license

Scotty wrote:
Always trust the word of a used boat salesman.


Especially one who calls himself "Captain" when he isn't
one, and who says he does "surveys" that he's not qualified
to perform.

DSK

I may sound a little stupid but "what is a broker's licence and what to you
gain by dealing with a broker"
Why are they using this disclaimer"
Disclaimer
The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot
guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the
condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his
surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This
vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without
notice.
The broker get approx 10% plus in commission doing what?






"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Capt" Rob wrote
Sorry about Doug, folks. He continues to be a troll. BTW,
he has no sailboat. The yard he insists doesn't exist can be seen
here for
example....on my webpage:

http://hometown.aol.com/boobsprit/paige1.html

I sell sailboats for them


Without a broker's license

Scotty wrote:
Always trust the word of a used boat salesman.


Especially one who calls himself "Captain" when he isn't one, and who says
he does "surveys" that he's not qualified to perform.

DSK