On 12 Aug 2003 02:38:37 -0700, (Steve)
wrote:

ouch wrote in message . ..
I don't disagree with your attitude- but your "facts" are suspect -
next to your colon, your bladder lining is the biggest shedder of dead
cells - ie. **** in a bowl, cover with saran wrap for 2-3 weeks and
drink that - how about even smell that.



Your urine should be sterile on exit, if its not you are ill. Of
course it smells after a while, that's because lots of bugs eat it.
Any nutritious substance smells after a while.

What has dead cells got to do with anything; the sea is full of cells
many of them structured into wondeful organisms !

Precisely....very well put. Dead cells don't stink until the bacteria
eat them! If we don't STORE them until they grow into sewage, they're
fine!


Larry

Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
You can tell because they never tried to contact us.

Ron Thornton wrote:

This weekend the City of Hampton VA allowed 2 million gallons of raw
sewage to wash into the James River just outside the Chesapeake Bay.
The cause was 3 inches of rain fall. They must have never heard of
berms like all the private petroleum companies have to have around their
tanks. Of coarse the city is exempt from any sanctions. I wonder how
many boats does it take to produce 2 million gallons of sewage.
Somethings wrong with this picture.

Ron



vbg about 25,000 with our admittedly oversized holding tank. It's
probably closer to 100,000 boats pumping straight out for that day and
much of THAT would be considered okay if directly "discharged" without
benefit of the MSD, so figure about a quarter of a million boats......

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Berms would do more to pollute the water than to prevent
pollution...because, unlike oil which has to be contained and retrieved,
dilution--which would be prevented if the tidal and current flow were
blocked by berms--is essential in both waste treatment AND spill recovery.

Yours is just one more example of the kind of knee-jerk emotional
reaction without any knowledge to back it up that the environmental
extremists count on to support their own self-serving agendae.

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



Ron Thornton wrote:
This weekend the City of Hampton VA allowed 2 million gallons of raw
sewage to wash into the James River just outside the Chesapeake Bay.
The cause was 3 inches of rain fall. They must have never heard of
berms like all the private petroleum companies have to have around their
tanks. Of coarse the city is exempt from any sanctions. I wonder how
many boats does it take to produce 2 million gallons of sewage.
Somethings wrong with this picture.

Ron

"Ron Thornton" wrote in message
...
This weekend the City of Hampton VA allowed 2 million gallons of raw
sewage to wash into the James River just outside the Chesapeake Bay.
The cause was 3 inches of rain fall. They must have never heard of
berms like all the private petroleum companies have to have around their
tanks. Of coarse the city is exempt from any sanctions. I wonder how
many boats does it take to produce 2 million gallons of sewage.
Somethings wrong with this picture.


year the

The whole thing pales by comparison to what has happened on the Great Lakes.
Last year the cities of Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha dumped in excess of
TWO BILLION GALLONS of untreated sewerage into Lake Michigan!!!

Fred Miller wrote:

"Ron Thornton" wrote
This weekend the City of Hampton VA allowed 2 million gallons of raw
sewage to wash into the James River ...

The whole thing pales by comparison to what has happened on the Great Lakes.
Last year the cities of Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha dumped in excess of
TWO BILLION GALLONS of untreated sewerage into Lake Michigan!!!

Hey, as long as people have more and more kids and encourage immigration
we're going to have more and more sewage. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing
about symptoms like not enough air, etc, etc, when the real problem is
too many people. Jeeze, one idiot over on rec.rv was whining about
development and keeping the wilderness for his kids to enjoy - all seven
of them!
Excuse the rant ...
Howard

"Vito" wrote in message
...
Hey, as long as people have more and more kids and encourage immigration
we're going to have more and more sewage. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing
about symptoms like not enough air, etc, etc, when the real problem is
too many people. Jeeze, one idiot over on rec.rv was whining about
development and keeping the wilderness for his kids to enjoy - all seven
of them!
Excuse the rant ...
Howard

You should have a look at the facts. The birthrate is just OK and US growth
rate is just 0.9%

RaBi wrote:

"Vito" wrote in message
...


Hey, as long as people have more and more kids and encourage immigration
we're going to have more and more sewage. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing
about symptoms like not enough air, etc, etc, when the real problem is
too many people. Jeeze, one idiot over on rec.rv was whining about
development and keeping the wilderness for his kids to enjoy - all seven
of them!
Excuse the rant ...
Howard



You should have a look at the facts. The birthrate is just OK and US growth
rate is just 0.9%


For at least the last couple of decades, the US birthrate have been
lower than the death rate. All growth has been immigration, legal and
illegal. That's pretty common in countries with higher standards of living.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

The whole thing pales by comparison to what has happened on the Great Lakes.
Last year the cities of Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha dumped in excess of
TWO BILLION GALLONS of untreated sewerage into Lake Michigan!!!


In this country, we are worried and on the lookout for terrorists who threaten
to disrupt our economy, quality of life, and
ways of life. Has anyone considered that
this has been happening for years by polluters who destroy fisheries,
recreational areas and drinking water supplies? The bodies of water are the
golden goose and they destroy with impunity. Who suffers? All of us, in some
way or another, do. Higher prices for protein source food, health problems
(cancer), due to ingesting carcinogens, lack of recreational diversions, loss
of jobs in canneries, fishing, restaurant, fish marketing, and related
industries are just
a few of many.
It's astounding that this is even allowed to happen in this age of supposed
ecological sensitivity.

Mark

"MLapla4120" wrote in message
...
The whole thing pales by comparison to what has happened on the Great
Lakes.
Last year the cities of Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha dumped in excess of
TWO BILLION GALLONS of untreated sewerage into Lake Michigan!!!


In this country, we are worried and on the lookout for terrorists who
threaten
to disrupt our economy, quality of life, and ways of life. Has anyone
considered
that this has been happening for years by polluters who destroy fisheries,
recreational areas and drinking water supplies? The bodies of water are
the
golden goose and they destroy with impunity.

The 'polluters' we're talking about here are not evil, greedy multinational
corporations -- they are cities and towns who lack the funds to upgrade
antiquated sewer systems immediately. Even so, these discharges are much
less common than they used to be and the Great Lakes are much cleaner (30
years ago, Lake Erie was considered 'dead' -- now it is clear and full of
fish). After all, it used to be that raw sewage was dumped into the lakes
routinely.

Mark