On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:30:56 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:47:27 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:31:28 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:



How would you know? Someone told you, or you read it in a book?

You certainly aren't speaking from experience as the longest voyage
you have made was your celebrated cruise down the bay to anchor off a
mud flat to avoid the sounds of a band playing.


Good one there, Bruce.
I really wish Neal would post a cruising log, as I'm sure it would be
interesting.
But I'm not holding my breath.

===

Welcome back Vic. How and where have you been?

Hey, Wayne. Been lurking around, but not much to say.
No boat!
Ready for another Captain Tony party boat trip?
I'll be down there mid-October.
If the weather's right on the 20th, I'll probably go for it.

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:47:27 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:31:28 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:



How would you know? Someone told you, or you read it in a book?

You certainly aren't speaking from experience as the longest voyage
you have made was your celebrated cruise down the bay to anchor off a
mud flat to avoid the sounds of a band playing.


Good one there, Bruce.
I really wish Neal would post a cruising log, as I'm sure it would be
interesting.
But I'm not holding my breath.

I should hope you're not :-)

--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in
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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:47:27 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:31:28 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

How would you know? Someone told you, or you read it in a book?

You certainly aren't speaking from experience as the longest voyage
you have made was your celebrated cruise down the bay to anchor off a
mud flat to avoid the sounds of a band playing.

Good one there, Bruce.

I really wish Neal would post a cruising log, as I'm sure it would be
i nteresting.

But I'm not holding my breath.

I should hope you're not :-)

Vic posted that he doesn't even have a boat. So, one wonders what
makes Vic think he's qualified to impugn my character and credentials?

Why, at least you own a sailboat, even though all it does is act as a
place keeper at some decrepit dock in a third-world backwater where
you ended up after having failed at your circumnavigation attempt.

Neither of you have the standing to criticize the merits of one who lives
aboard and has lived aboard for nigh on 27 years now and who
continues to cruise from time to time?

--
Sir Gregory

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:48:41 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

===

Interesting statistics. We would have used a lot more fuel, close to
90,000 liters, costing over $100,000 USD and with over 3,000 engine
hours (each). The big issue for us is fuel range however. Our
longest possible passage is about 1,000 nautical miles and that would
really be a stretch. I'm surprised that his country count is that low
(22). We do about 14 just going from Florida to the eastern
Caribbean.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:48:41 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

===

Interesting statistics. We would have used a lot more fuel, close to
90,000 liters, costing over $100,000 USD and with over 3,000 engine
hours (each). The big issue for us is fuel range however. Our
longest possible passage is about 1,000 nautical miles and that would
really be a stretch. I'm surprised that his country count is that low
(22). We do about 14 just going from Florida to the eastern
Caribbean.



Fourteen *countries* between Florida and the Caribbean? OMG.

No way! There just aren't 14 countries between here and there, dude.

You have:

1) Bahamas
2) Turks and Caicos
3) Dominican Republic (Haiti doesn't count only a fool stops there)
Puerto Rico doesn't count because it's America
Virgin Islands don't count because they are American
4) BVI's
5) AVI's don't count as a separate country.
6) Anguilla

That makes six and you're in the Eastern Caribbean.

--
Sir Gregory

Then you're in the Eastern Caribbean.


--
Sir Gregory

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:05:10 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:48:41 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

===

Interesting statistics. We would have used a lot more fuel, close to
90,000 liters, costing over $100,000 USD and with over 3,000 engine
hours (each). The big issue for us is fuel range however. Our
longest possible passage is about 1,000 nautical miles and that would
really be a stretch. I'm surprised that his country count is that low
(22). We do about 14 just going from Florida to the eastern
Caribbean.



Fourteen *countries* between Florida and the Caribbean? OMG.

No way! There just aren't 14 countries between here and there, dude.

You have:

1) Bahamas
2) Turks and Caicos
3) Dominican Republic (Haiti doesn't count only a fool stops there)
Puerto Rico doesn't count because it's America
Virgin Islands don't count because they are American
4) BVI's
5) AVI's don't count as a separate country.
6) Anguilla

That makes six and you're in the Eastern Caribbean.

--
Sir Gregory

Then you're in the Eastern Caribbean.

Apparently you bought a map, or did you see it onna teevee. You
certainly didn't gain that information from visiting those countries.

Capt. Neil, the Never Went Sailor.

--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:05:10 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

Fourteen *countries* between Florida and the Caribbean? OMG.

No way! There just aren't 14 countries between here and there, dude.

You have:

1) Bahamas
2) Turks and Caicos
3) Dominican Republic (Haiti doesn't count only a fool stops there)
Puerto Rico doesn't count because it's America
Virgin Islands don't count because they are American
4) BVI's
5) AVI's don't count as a separate country.
6) Anguilla

That makes six and you're in the Eastern Caribbean.

--
Sir Gregory

Then you're in the Eastern Caribbean.

===


You're part way there. By the way you still have to clear in and out
of Puerto Rico and the USVI, and they each have their own courtesy
flag so they might just as well be separate countries for cruising
purposes

Here are the ones you're forgetting:

St Martin, St Barts, Antigua, Guadaloupe, Dominica, Martinique, St
Lucia, St Vincent & the Grenadines, Grenada.

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:16:34 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:48:41 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

===

Interesting statistics. We would have used a lot more fuel, close to
90,000 liters, costing over $100,000 USD and with over 3,000 engine
hours (each). The big issue for us is fuel range however. Our
longest possible passage is about 1,000 nautical miles and that would
really be a stretch. I'm surprised that his country count is that low
(22). We do about 14 just going from Florida to the eastern
Caribbean.

When he talks about power boats he is referring to the trawler yacht
type of boat. 40 - 45 ft. with a small engine. Probably 7 K cruising
speed. See http://www.dieselducks.com/Seahorse%20ducks.html
for an example of the type.

As for countries, he has been in the oil well drilling business nearly
40 years and worked in about every country that has oil. I think (as
he didn't talk about the trip before he left) that the intent was to
make the trip as opposed to visiting countries. In fact he was quite
disparaging about many of the countries he visited. I gather that he
feat that many countries viewed visiting yachts as simply a new form
of income.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:23:09 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

When he talks about power boats he is referring to the trawler yacht
type of boat. 40 - 45 ft. with a small engine. Probably 7 K cruising
speed. See http://www.dieselducks.com/Seahorse%20ducks.html
for an example of the type.

===

Yes, we've seen a few. Nice boats for their intended purpose, a bit
slow for coastal cruising however, and I really like my twin engines.
I'm a big fan of redundancy in all things.

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:16:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:23:09 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:

When he talks about power boats he is referring to the trawler yacht
type of boat. 40 - 45 ft. with a small engine. Probably 7 K cruising
speed. See http://www.dieselducks.com/Seahorse%20ducks.html
for an example of the type.

===

Yes, we've seen a few. Nice boats for their intended purpose, a bit
slow for coastal cruising however, and I really like my twin engines.
I'm a big fan of redundancy in all things.

Some trawler yachts have sails also :-)
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok