Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

During the trip, I hauled out two times for anti-fouling and repaired,
updated & installed various pieces of equipment whose costs are not
reflected in any of the above amounts. Cruising permits for Panama &
Indonesia were included with customs, immigration fees. Fuel costs
were always derived from the price at the last port of call and varied
a lot with Europe having very high prices. Overall average fuel price
was USD $1.31 per liter. I am working on some of the expenses other
occurred during the trip and not included above:

For the power boat sailors he also comments:

Comparing this trip to a small trawler, one would have used about
19,000 liters of fuel and spent about USD $25,000 on fuel, methinks,
but a good trawler with a well designed propulsion system, with some
sails to take advantage of the downwind trade winds and not pushed too
hard might do better.

(As Wayne mentions, he left from Langkawi, Malaysia, which is on the
Malaysian - Thai border and he is now in Sebana Cove which is located
on the Malaysia - Singapore border so to have sailed around the world
he must sail from the southern tip of Malaysia to the northern edge.
Thus the "well nearly" comment :-)

--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On 9/15/2013 12:48 AM, Bruce in bangkok wrote:

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:


Interesting stats. It appears to me that he controlled whatever expenses
which are controllable well.

What type of boat was he on? Singlehanding or what?

-paul

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:49:48 -0600, slide wrote:

On 9/15/2013 12:48 AM, Bruce in bangkok wrote:

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:


Interesting stats. It appears to me that he controlled whatever expenses
which are controllable well.

What type of boat was he on? Singlehanding or what?

-paul

Single handed on a 35 (or maybe 36) ft. Prout cat.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
...

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

During the trip, I hauled out two times for anti-fouling and repaired,
updated & installed various pieces of equipment whose costs are not
reflected in any of the above amounts. Cruising permits for Panama &
Indonesia were included with customs, immigration fees. Fuel costs
were always derived from the price at the last port of call and varied
a lot with Europe having very high prices. Overall average fuel price
was USD $1.31 per liter. I am working on some of the expenses other
occurred during the trip and not included above:

For the power boat sailors he also comments:

Comparing this trip to a small trawler, one would have used about
19,000 liters of fuel and spent about USD $25,000 on fuel, methinks,
but a good trawler with a well designed propulsion system, with some
sails to take advantage of the downwind trade winds and not pushed too
hard might do better.

(As Wayne mentions, he left from Langkawi, Malaysia, which is on the
Malaysian - Thai border and he is now in Sebana Cove which is located
on the Malaysia - Singapore border so to have sailed around the world
he must sail from the southern tip of Malaysia to the northern edge.
Thus the "well nearly" comment :-)


Pathetic account, IMO.

He went around the wrong way and in the wrong hemisphere. He
should have headed south from Malaysia until he picked up the
prevailing westerly's and gone around the conventional way. This
would have saved him lots of time and money and would have
been a REAL circumnavigation.

He'd have been better off spending his money on cruise ship
tickets. It would have been less expensive. Some people are
just so clueless.

--
Sir Gregory

On 15/09/2013 7:08 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
...

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Pathetic account, IMO.

He went around the wrong way and in the wrong hemisphere. He
should have headed south from Malaysia until he picked up the
prevailing westerly's and gone around the conventional way. This
would have saved him lots of time and money and would have
been a REAL circumnavigation.

He'd have been better off spending his money on cruise ship
tickets. It would have been less expensive. Some people are
just so clueless.


WHEN you do it, you can tell US who ARE doing it
and HAVE done, it HOW to do it. Until then,
from where you sit, it's all SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA from you.
Sometimes you can be ****ing irritating. But then, I'm the
one sitting in a nice little harbor on Nisyros so I have
to count my good fortune.

"injipoint" wrote in message
...
On 15/09/2013 7:08 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
...

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Pathetic account, IMO.

He went around the wrong way and in the wrong hemisphere. He
should have headed south from Malaysia until he picked up the
prevailing westerly's and gone around the conventional way. This
would have saved him lots of time and money and would have
been a REAL circumnavigation.

He'd have been better off spending his money on cruise ship
tickets. It would have been less expensive. Some people are
just so clueless.

WHEN you do it, you can tell US who ARE doing it
and HAVE done, it HOW to do it. Until then,
from where you sit, it's all SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA from you.
Sometimes you can be ****ing irritating. But then, I'm the
one sitting in a nice little harbor on Nisyros so I have
to count my good fortune.


So, I'm sitting in a nice little harbor in the Florida Keys after
thousands of miles of sailing. That's not peanuts, ya know.

Your assumption that one must do a thing before one can
be an authority on a thing would rule out any male Obstetricians,
would it not? Might you logic be a bit flawed?

--
Sir Gregory

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:09:32 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"injipoint" wrote in message
...
On 15/09/2013 7:08 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
...

snipped

Pathetic account, IMO.

He went around the wrong way and in the wrong hemisphere. He
should have headed south from Malaysia until he picked up the
prevailing westerly's and gone around the conventional way. This
would have saved him lots of time and money and would have
been a REAL circumnavigation.

He'd have been better off spending his money on cruise ship
tickets. It would have been less expensive. Some people are
just so clueless.

WHEN you do it, you can tell US who ARE doing it
and HAVE done, it HOW to do it. Until then,
from where you sit, it's all SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA from you.
Sometimes you can be ****ing irritating. But then, I'm the
one sitting in a nice little harbor on Nisyros so I have
to count my good fortune.


So, I'm sitting in a nice little harbor in the Florida Keys after
thousands of miles of sailing. That's not peanuts, ya know.

Thousands of miles? A thousand feet perhaps. Down the bay to anchor
off the mud flat and back the next day. Remember? You reported this
major cruise in loving detail.

Your assumption that one must do a thing before one can
be an authority on a thing would rule out any male Obstetricians,
would it not? Might you logic be a bit flawed?

However the male obstetrician actually knows what he is talking
about... and is tested by a group of his peers to ensure that he does.
He is not a pitiful neophyte who simply talks about it.

The really pitiful part is that people with boats no larger then yours
have made circumnavigations which rather evidences that your problem
is simply a lack of intestinal fortitude.

Capt. Neil, the Gutless Wonder.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:08:15 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
.. .

Wayne, a good friend, just completed (well nearly) a trip around the
world. He e-mailed me some statistics which may be of interest to
other cruisers:

Left Langkawi, Malaysia on 17th January, 2012
Arrived Sebana Cove, Malaysia on 10th September, 2013
Traveled thru the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic
Ocean, Caribbean, Pacific Ocean, Coral Sea, etc.
Traveled 25,313 NM from Langkawi to Sebana Cove. Visited 22 countries.
(As I have made the trip from Sebana to Langkawi a few times, 470
miles could be added to the total ... later)

Was in port 53% of the time and 47% at sea.
Ran the engine 1,813 hours.
Used 2,279 liters of diesel and paid USD $2,980 total for the fuel.
Estimated travel by wind only is approximately 77%
Estimated travel by engine & motor sailing 23%
Customs, Immigration, port fees and agent fees were USD $2,645
Spent on marinas and moorings USD $6,153
Mediterranean 3rd party insurance was USD $335
Suez Canal crossing fees were USD $255
Panama Canal crossing fees were USD $1,744

During the trip, I hauled out two times for anti-fouling and repaired,
updated & installed various pieces of equipment whose costs are not
reflected in any of the above amounts. Cruising permits for Panama &
Indonesia were included with customs, immigration fees. Fuel costs
were always derived from the price at the last port of call and varied
a lot with Europe having very high prices. Overall average fuel price
was USD $1.31 per liter. I am working on some of the expenses other
occurred during the trip and not included above:

For the power boat sailors he also comments:

Comparing this trip to a small trawler, one would have used about
19,000 liters of fuel and spent about USD $25,000 on fuel, methinks,
but a good trawler with a well designed propulsion system, with some
sails to take advantage of the downwind trade winds and not pushed too
hard might do better.

(As Wayne mentions, he left from Langkawi, Malaysia, which is on the
Malaysian - Thai border and he is now in Sebana Cove which is located
on the Malaysia - Singapore border so to have sailed around the world
he must sail from the southern tip of Malaysia to the northern edge.
Thus the "well nearly" comment :-)


Pathetic account, IMO.

He went around the wrong way and in the wrong hemisphere. He
should have headed south from Malaysia until he picked up the
prevailing westerly's and gone around the conventional way. This
would have saved him lots of time and money and would have
been a REAL circumnavigation.

He'd have been better off spending his money on cruise ship
tickets. It would have been less expensive. Some people are
just so clueless.

How would you know? Someone told you, or you read it in a book?

You certainly aren't speaking from experience as the longest voyage
you have made was your celebrated cruise down the bay to anchor off a
mud flat to avoid the sounds of a band playing.

And don't start the old sad song about how your voyaging is for your
benefit only as when you did make your epic cruise you made it a point
to describe it in loving detail right here on this site.

Capt. Neil the pitiful Pseudo Sailor.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:31:28 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:



How would you know? Someone told you, or you read it in a book?

You certainly aren't speaking from experience as the longest voyage
you have made was your celebrated cruise down the bay to anchor off a
mud flat to avoid the sounds of a band playing.


Good one there, Bruce.
I really wish Neal would post a cruising log, as I'm sure it would be
interesting.
But I'm not holding my breath.

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:47:27 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:31:28 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote:



How would you know? Someone told you, or you read it in a book?

You certainly aren't speaking from experience as the longest voyage
you have made was your celebrated cruise down the bay to anchor off a
mud flat to avoid the sounds of a band playing.


Good one there, Bruce.
I really wish Neal would post a cruising log, as I'm sure it would be
interesting.
But I'm not holding my breath.

===

Welcome back Vic. How and where have you been?