Keeping your sailboat in a slip is just plain stupid and here are the
reasons why.

1) You almost always hove to use your motor to get underway. Might as
well own a motor yacht and get it over with.

2) You and your boat is like an exhibit in a zoo. Lot's of gawkers and
passers by who give you no privacy.

3) A fire in the slip next to yours often times greatly damages your
boat or destroys it completely.

4) Most marinas require you carry a huge liability insurance policy.

5) Many will chase you away when a hurricane approaches.

6) Obnoxious, noisy neighbors, barking dogs, cat's and dogs "marking
their territory" using your boat.

7) Lots of roaches, ants, termites, fleas and other vermin all over the
place.

8) Electrolysis rampant with stray voltage all over the place.

9) Filthy, oily water with an almost constant diesel fuel sheen in
evidence. This ends up as a black oily scum all around your LWL and boot
stripe.

10) All crammed into a small space with little or no breeze - in other
words, hotter than hell.

12) People steal anything that's not locked down.

13) A cacophony of slapping halyards, flapping canvas and jury rigged
window air conditioners.

14) Outrageously expensive monthly rent.

15) Trailer park trash transient atmosphere. Drunken blowhards abound.
Fat lying losers like Bobsprit running their fat mouths trying to
impress other people with their low-end production line French crap.

16) Constant chafe and wear and tear on lines, cleats and other fittings
from the boat not being allowed to point bow to the wind.

17) Foul air from cigars, cigarettes, engines warming up, barbeques
cooking and hot sweaty bodies. Children screaming and running up and
down the dock.

18) Fat women sunning their ugly carcasses.

19) Fat men sunning their ugly carcasses.

20) and on it goes....

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Keeping your sailboat in a slip is just plain stupid and here are the
reasons why.

1) You almost always hove to use your motor to get underway. Might as well
own a motor yacht and get it over with.

Funny how all manufacturers put those smelly diesels on their boats. I'll
bet they're only installed in order for moored boats to make it to the
pumpout dock.


2) You and your boat is like an exhibit in a zoo. Lot's of gawkers and
passers by who give you no privacy.

Some of us don't require privacy. OTOH, if I looked like you, I'd probably
prefer to be unseen.

3) A fire in the slip next to yours often times greatly damages your boat
or destroys it completely.

That's what insurance is for = new boat.


4) Most marinas require you carry a huge liability insurance policy.

Can't get insurance on a moored boat in some places.

5) Many will chase you away when a hurricane approaches.

Not many hurricanes up here.


6) Obnoxious, noisy neighbors, barking dogs, cat's and dogs "marking their
territory" using your boat.

Sorry to hear that your neighbors pee on your boat in order to mark their
territory.

7) Lots of roaches, ants, termites, fleas and other vermin all over the
place.

Only spiders.

8) Electrolysis rampant with stray voltage all over the place.

I change my zincs annually.


9) Filthy, oily water with an almost constant diesel fuel sheen in
evidence. This ends up as a black oily scum all around your LWL and boot
stripe.

Not sure how your waterline on that yellow POS got so rank, but mine never
looks anywhere near that foul.

10) All crammed into a small space with little or no breeze - in other
words, hotter than hell.

Southwesterly or northwesterly breezes keep my boat nice and cool at all
times. An advantage in being at the distal end of the dock.


12) People steal anything that's not locked down.

You need to find better "friends and acquaintances." Then again, perhaps
you have nothing worth stealing.


13) A cacophony of slapping halyards, flapping canvas and jury rigged
window air conditioners.

Not in our marina. Again, you need to find better neighbors.


14) Outrageously expensive monthly rent.

Reasonable seasonal rent.

15) Trailer park trash transient atmosphere. Drunken blowhards abound.
Fat lying losers like Bobsprit running their fat mouths trying to impress
other people with their low-end production line French crap.

You really don't choose your neighbors well, do ya.


16) Constant chafe and wear and tear on lines, cleats and other fittings
from the boat not being allowed to point bow to the wind.

Boats on the moorings get waked by the fisherman constantly. People return
to their moored boats on weekends to find everything distributed on the
cabin sole, broken or wet.

17) Foul air from cigars, cigarettes, engines warming up, barbeques
cooking and hot sweaty bodies. Children screaming and running up and down
the dock.

Ah, the smells and sounds of summer.


18) Fat women sunning their ugly carcasses.

On your boat, perhaps.


19) Fat men sunning their ugly carcasses.

Definitely on your boat.


20) and on it goes....

Moorings breaking loose in storms, boat wake causing enough chafe on mooring
lines to cause them to part prematurely, the cedar bucket spilling onto the
cabin sole and putrefying the air in the boat forever, spending a nasty ten
minutes in a pitching dinghy, pelted by rain and spray, attempting to get to
the f***ing moored boat, and on it goes . . .

Slip Renter

Good points, except for # 5, 7 & 16.

Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message
anews.com.
...
Keeping your sailboat in a slip is just plain stupid and
here are the
reasons why.

1) You almost always hove to use your motor to get
underway. Might as
well own a motor yacht and get it over with.

2) You and your boat is like an exhibit in a zoo. Lot's of
gawkers and
passers by who give you no privacy.

3) A fire in the slip next to yours often times greatly
damages your
boat or destroys it completely.

4) Most marinas require you carry a huge liability
insurance policy.

5) Many will chase you away when a hurricane approaches.

6) Obnoxious, noisy neighbors, barking dogs, cat's and
dogs "marking
their territory" using your boat.

7) Lots of roaches, ants, termites, fleas and other vermin
all over the
place.

8) Electrolysis rampant with stray voltage all over the
place.

9) Filthy, oily water with an almost constant diesel fuel
sheen in
evidence. This ends up as a black oily scum all around
your LWL and boot
stripe.

10) All crammed into a small space with little or no
breeze - in other
words, hotter than hell.

12) People steal anything that's not locked down.

13) A cacophony of slapping halyards, flapping canvas and
jury rigged
window air conditioners.

14) Outrageously expensive monthly rent.

15) Trailer park trash transient atmosphere. Drunken
blowhards abound.
Fat lying losers like Bobsprit running their fat mouths
trying to
impress other people with their low-end production line
French crap.

16) Constant chafe and wear and tear on lines, cleats and
other fittings
from the boat not being allowed to point bow to the wind.

17) Foul air from cigars, cigarettes, engines warming up,
barbeques
cooking and hot sweaty bodies. Children screaming and
running up and
down the dock.

18) Fat women sunning their ugly carcasses.

19) Fat men sunning their ugly carcasses.

20) and on it goes....

Wilbur Hubbard

You know of course, that BS is going to tell you how his marina (or "club"
as he likes to call it) is different from all other marinas.



Actually BoatUS and other clubs like to call it that. But perhaps you
can educate everyone and tell us what other local facility offers what
our club does:

1) Slips with internet, power, storage and water
2) Dedicated dinghy dock (not doing double duty like most clubs with
their little docks)
3) Fish cleaning station (yep...lots of folks still love fishing)
4) Full service repairs, hauling and land storage
5) Free moorings to members
6) 24 hr security
7) Discounts for members to better restaurants on the Island
8) Discounts with two major sail lofts
9) Discounts with West Marine and Boat US.
10) Best water access bar none in the area, coupled with the best
protection from weather.
11) Large party deck overlooking the water with 4 gas grills free for
all members to use for parties and cookouts.

And what does Dave's club have? Moorings and a restaurant you MUST eat
at as part the membership. Our club has a voting board who were clever
enough to close up our clubhouse because most members prefered to be
boating, rather than paying too much for beer. Now if Dave was honest,
he'd explain that moorings outnumber slips 200 to 1 on the LIS. Slips
are hard to come by, especially at full service places like mine.
So go ahead, Dave. Tell everyone what other places offers all of that
here. Sure. It costs a lot more than your place, but I can safely say
that everyone who brings a sailboat from a mooring is willing to pay
it and never wants to be on a mooring again unless forced by finances.
THE LIS is a PROTECTED sailing ground and most folks would be happier
in a slip if they were available and affordable.



RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

You know of course, that BS is going to tell you how his marina (or
"club"
as he likes to call it) is different from all other marinas.



Actually BoatUS and other clubs like to call it that. But perhaps you
can educate everyone and tell us what other local facility offers what
our club does:

1) Slips with internet, power, storage and water
2) Dedicated dinghy dock (not doing double duty like most clubs with
their little docks)
3) Fish cleaning station (yep...lots of folks still love fishing)
4) Full service repairs, hauling and land storage
5) Free moorings to members
6) 24 hr security
7) Discounts for members to better restaurants on the Island
8) Discounts with two major sail lofts
9) Discounts with West Marine and Boat US.
10) Best water access bar none in the area, coupled with the best
protection from weather.
11) Large party deck overlooking the water with 4 gas grills free for
all members to use for parties and cookouts.


What is missing here?

12) Capt Rob as resident broker.
13) Capt Rob as resident marine surveyor.
14) Capt Rob as resident tow operator.
15) Capt Rob as resident insurance claim expert.
16) Capt Rob as resident appraiser.
17) Capt Rob as the Marina Prince.
18) Capt Rob the A-4 Ace.
19) Capt Rob never lies or abuses people.

If you can be all those things there and more, one has to wonder about the
"full service repairs".

Yes, we know plenty about your marina. Why doesn't it have a web page? hmmm?

Moo-hoo-haa-haa!

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Keeping your sailboat in a slip is just plain stupid and here are the
reasons why.

Like these pussies
http://www.navyyard.org/MasterPlanShipyard02.htm

And what does Dave's club have? Moorings and a restaurant you MUST eat
at as part the membership.


Wrong again. As usual. Stop in and see us some time.





Why? Do I need a no frills club like yours? Let me post a review:

NYCB is far from the fancy type of club some might imagine. There are
no slips, nor even a dinghy dock! You are required to drag your dinghy
up to the parking lot, remove the motor if you have one, and put it on
a rack when not in use. The clubhouse is neat and clean, but basically
just a large room where you can set up folding tables and chairs. This
is strictly a "no-frills" club. Some may want to look at the junior
sailing programs.
After sailing into the mooring field last season, the launch operator
was making her last run of the day at about 5 pm. Are you supposed to
SWIM to shore after that? Not sure how that works... I'd rather have a
dinghy dock, which would allow me to come and go at any hour, and
leave my dinghy in a "ready" condition rather than having to remove/
reinstall the motor and so forth every time I use it.
Sloppy radio conduct led to us having to phone in for our visit and we
were directed to the wrong mooring, but this is sadly common for many
clubs. Our experience was quite a lot like a visit to Douglaston Yacht
club, though they are a true club with all of the frills.



RB
35s5
NY

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:54:07 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
said:

Why doesn't it have a web page? hmmm?

But Bob, BS's marina does have a web page. www.boatmax.com. You can take a
look and see whether it looks like a marina or a yacht club.

Now that yacht club is one class act.

Home of the noveau riche!

Tre gauche!

"Dave" wrote in message
...

Face it, BS. You've got no credibility whatever. A total buffoon.

I think he's more of an ass than a buffoon.

If you had any real experience you wouldn't show yourself the total
idiot by
making up fairy tales and then having to back pedal. And you wouldn't
have
to Google high and low for somebody else's opinion.



No, Dave, once again you have it wrong. The opinion is from someone
you know. In fact your "club" barely qualifies at all. It's totally
low end and suits your boat. I edited out the name in that "review"
for a reason, Dave.
I also know, from a certain lady, that your boat is hardly a good
example of a CS 27...a boat that's not exactly sought after even in
great shape. So you have a dumpy old poorly maintained lemon of a boat
kept at a low end no frills club.
That's the truth and it's good enough for me. Let's hope that it's
good enough for you. Luckily Bob Crantz is supporting you...and you
need it!


RB
35s5
NY