JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?


What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.


I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.


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JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?

I don't know. I would think that a marginal complaint could be something
like... "does this behavior (insert behavior) violate your TOS... it's not
clear" or something like that.

What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason to
complain? Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated the
"regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to ignore their
regulations because of me?

I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Not saying I did. I'm saying that it's between him and his ISP.

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone
of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but
I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.

I do. Do you understand the fundamental difference between what is and what
is not a violation of Mooron's TOS? I don't know what Mooron's situation is,
especially with respect to his ISP or their policies. I would suggest that
Mooron is the one who needs to determine the importance of his internet
connection, not I.

"JG" wrote in message ...
"Wally" wrote in message
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JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?

I don't know. I would think that a marginal complaint could be something
like... "does this behavior (insert behavior) violate your TOS... it's not
clear" or something like that.

What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason to
complain? Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated the
"regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to ignore their
regulations because of me?

I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Not saying I did. I'm saying that it's between him and his ISP.

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone
of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but
I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.

I do. Do you understand the fundamental difference between what is and what
is not a violation of Mooron's TOS? I don't know what Mooron's situation is,
especially with respect to his ISP or their policies. I would suggest that
Mooron is the one who needs to determine the importance of his internet
connection, not I.


You obviously decided it was important enough to you to try and get him
kicked off because you were upset because he got the better of you in
every exchange of posts. So what are you doing saying Mooron needs to
determine the importance of his connection when you are trying to do
the determining with your abuse complaints?

Ganz, you've got to be the biggest asshole ever . . .

CN

JG wrote:

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason
to complain?

There was no reason to complain, you hypocrite. He was doing nothing worse
than you've done countless times.


... Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated
the "regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to
ignore their regulations because of me?

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.

"utterly *vile*."

BINGO!

Joe wrote:
"utterly *vile*."

BINGO!

Thank you.

FWIW: the noise tactics weren't what convinced me, it was Mooron's calm,
matter-of-fact explanation.


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Unlike my calm, matter-of-fact response to your query....

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"Wally" wrote in message
k...
Joe wrote:
"utterly *vile*."

BINGO!

Thank you.

FWIW: the noise tactics weren't what convinced me, it was Mooron's calm,
matter-of-fact explanation.


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Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

So, I politely answered your question, and this is your response? Talk about
vile and hypocritical...

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"Wally" wrote in message
k...
JG wrote:

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason
to complain?

There was no reason to complain, you hypocrite. He was doing nothing worse
than you've done countless times.


... Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated
the "regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to
ignore their regulations because of me?

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.

"JG" wrote:

So, I politely answered your question, and this is your response? Talk
about vile and hypocritical...

Calling yourself names, Jon? How appropriate!

LP

Ditto.

SBV


"Wally" wrote

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the
interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with
someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and
Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid
enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.