All kidding aside, it sure is too bad that they can't figure out that this
newsgroup is not that important to world peace or whatever. I just don't get
it. From the second hand posts, I can see that I'm being accused of all
sorts of things. As is my usual response, I won't confirm nor deny it. Let
them stew in their own fetid juices. It really does bother me, however, that
they're resorting to cross-posting and attempting to get help from those
jerks that tried to really destroy the newsgroup a year or so ago. I just
don't see the justification except in their juvinile minds.

Sorry for the rant.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
thanks Jon, I like you too.

SV

"JG" wrote in message
...
At least Scott is an honest asshole.... unlike Mooron, Neal and
the
others...

CM,

Just who in this world of 'net give you the right to control what I
think in forming MY OWN OPINIONS. If those opinion are of you, they are
influenced on how I preceive your action and posted views. You do not
have the right to tell me how I feel about those action and printed
words. You've made statements that were unfactual. I have elected, of my
own free will, not to accept them.

Apology; I owe you none!

Ole Thom

The fact you formulate an opinion gives it no substance, importance nor
worth.
The action of posting it made it public.... and indicates your intention.
You've made your choice .... respect is a two way street.
Consider us at odds.... my obligations of courtesy and cordial discourse
with you are hereby terminated.

CM



I'll let this indiscretion of yours pass this once. interference in
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
CM,

Just who in this world of 'net give you the right to control what I
think in forming MY OWN OPINIONS. If those opinion are of you, they are
influenced on how I preceive your action and posted views. You do not
have the right to tell me how I feel about those action and printed
words. You've made statements that were unfactual. I have elected, of my
own free will, not to accept them.

Apology; I owe you none!

Ole Thom

Opinions do have substance, importance, and worth, including yours. If
opinions didn't, then everyone would always be in complete agreement, since
no one would bother saying anything that was in opposition to anyone else's.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:XNF3e.127637$ZO2.72473@edtnps84...
The fact you formulate an opinion gives it no substance, importance nor
worth.
The action of posting it made it public.... and indicates your intention.
You've made your choice .... respect is a two way street.
Consider us at odds.... my obligations of courtesy and cordial discourse
with you are hereby terminated.

CM



I'll let this indiscretion of yours pass this once. interference in
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
CM,

Just who in this world of 'net give you the right to control what I
think in forming MY OWN OPINIONS. If those opinion are of you, they are
influenced on how I preceive your action and posted views. You do not
have the right to tell me how I feel about those action and printed
words. You've made statements that were unfactual. I have elected, of my
own free will, not to accept them.

Apology; I owe you none!

Ole Thom

JG wrote:

All kidding aside, it sure is too bad that they can't figure out that
this newsgroup is not that important to world peace or whatever.

Quite. It's a source of fun and banter - apres-race ****takes and debate in
the yacht club bar is a good analogy.


I just don't get it.

It's about LP getting back at Katysails over some dumb flame war.


It really does bother me, however, that they're resorting to
cross-posting and attempting to get help from those jerks that tried
to really destroy the newsgroup a year or so ago.

Yup, LP and Katysails have some pathetic hissy fit, so LP calls in a bunch
of boot-boys and has the whole bar trashed.


I just don't see the justification except in their juvinile minds.

That's because there is none beyond that. Neal might play the trolling,
opiniated mouthpiece, but he's often done so with some humour; and LP played
some flirtatious floosie, who I could quite happily take or leave - just a
bit player as far as I was concerned.

I think what we've seen here is a game of "Let's you and him fight", between
Neal and Katy, instigated by LP. LP couldn't give Katy a good enough kicking
on her own, so she got Neal to do it for her, and in such a way as to force
Katy's hand (ie, do the netcop thing), knowing that, as soon as Katy
netcopped, LP would raise the flag for the flonkers to come in and trash the
bar. LP is basically making a big show of giving Katy a kicking because she
couldn't do it on her own, and all been played out on an unimportant virtual
stage where nobody else gives a toss about anything other than getting on
with the fun and banter they come here for. It's a load of pathetic
ego-wank.

I was pleased for Neal that he got some female company while out sailing for
a few days, but both he and LP have gone way down in my estimation after
this. Especially LP - she's gone from a bit-player to being spiteful,
vindictive and more than willing to **** everybody off because she can't
deal with a stupid personal flame war (the justification of 'protecting free
speech' is nothing more than a smokescreen for that - that might be where
the flonkers are at, but it wasn't what LP was using them for). Neal would
do well to step away from this person for a while and consider the results
of his part in this. I don't think the nett gain can be described as
positive.

As I said to LP in another post, all we really have here is personas.
Outside of those we've met in real life, we don't really know the person
behind the poster. In spite of that, I've often wondered who I would go for
a sail with if I ever found myself on the other side of the pond. For all
his invective, Neal was one of them - but not in the present climate.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.


"JG" wrote in message
...
Opinions do have substance, importance, and worth, including yours.
If
opinions didn't, then everyone would always be in complete
agreement, since
no one would bother saying anything that was in opposition to anyone
else's.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:XNF3e.127637$ZO2.72473@edtnps84...
The fact you formulate an opinion gives it no substance,
importance nor
worth.
The action of posting it made it public.... and indicates your
intention.
You've made your choice .... respect is a two way street.
Consider us at odds.... my obligations of courtesy and cordial
discourse
with you are hereby terminated.

CM



I'll let this indiscretion of yours pass this once. interference
in
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
CM,

Just who in this world of 'net give you the right to control what
I
think in forming MY OWN OPINIONS. If those opinion are of you,
they are
influenced on how I preceive your action and posted views. You do
not
have the right to tell me how I feel about those action and
printed
words. You've made statements that were unfactual. I have
elected, of my
own free will, not to accept them.

Apology; I owe you none!

Ole Thom

"Wally" wrote in message
...
snip
As I said to LP in another post, all we really have here is personas.
Outside of those we've met in real life, we don't really know the person
behind the poster. In spite of that, I've often wondered who I would go
for
a sail with if I ever found myself on the other side of the pond. For all
his invective, Neal was one of them - but not in the present climate.

Good post, Wally.



Regards



Donal
--

Donal wrote:

Good post, Wally.

Cheers. Just trying to see this little episode for what it really is.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

"Wally" wrote in message
...

As I said to LP in another post, all we really have here is personas.
Outside of those we've met in real life, we don't really know the person
behind the poster.

--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk


Funny, "LP" went in my kf quite some time ago as I was never convinced "she"
was a "real" person. I am still of that opinion. If a "persona" is witty or
entertaining, I would consider reading their posts, if not, why clutter up
my newsreader?

John Cairns

"Wally" wrote in message ...
JG wrote:

All kidding aside, it sure is too bad that they can't figure out that
this newsgroup is not that important to world peace or whatever.

Quite. It's a source of fun and banter - apres-race ****takes and debate in
the yacht club bar is a good analogy.

big snip

Wally,

Some information you do not have that is skewing your thoughts is
Haight and Ganz have been netKKKoping me for over five years.
Both have a history of complaining to my ISPs and attempting to
get me tossed. Both brag about doing so.

I'm a patient man. I waited and bided my time hoping they would
get bored and go away. They didn't. So I waited till the time was
right. I used the fact that my news server, Individual.net was
going commercial April 1 and I was declining to pay for it. I
signed up on Databaxis and was welcomed. I doubt there
is a better service anywhere. They have their priorities straight.

My baiting Haight and Ganz and my goading them into revealing
their activities has nothing to do with the flame war between Katy
and LP. It only has the timing happenstance of Individaul net
going commercial. All conclusions you based on my relationship
with LP are erroneous. Believe me, that woman can and does
fight her own battles. She knows what a flame war is and
does not resort to netKKKoping no matter the length and
bitterness of the flame war. She is based in reality unlike
Haight and Ganz.

"They" did not cross post to get the flonkers involved. Show
me the post where I cross posted to do so, please. LP is a late
comer and has little to do with my dealings with Haight and
Ganz. They are netKKKops and what you see going on is the
result of their admitting to be netKKKops while netKKKop
haters were tuned in and there is no other reason for it.

It just so happened that when I joined Databasix, some
interested people were monitoring my posts. They look
out after their own interests and have been fighting for
freedom of speech for a long time. They expend a lot
of time and energy in a noble pursuit against censorship
and I, for one appreciate the haven they provide. They
do news right and that's a fact. Those monitoring my
posts were aware of the netcops and LP crossposting
was an after-the-fact situation.

You seem to be pretty bright but jumping to conclusions
can lead to false statements that tend to invalidate
what otherwise would be a decent summary.

CN