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Capt. Neal® December 26th 04 07:11 PM

Katy get a bigger dink
 
After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.

CN




Bobsprit December 26th 04 07:54 PM

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.


Get a portabote. More payload, stows properly and far better performance that
Neal wouldn't know about. They are not too attractive, but a dink is about
being safe and practical 1st and foremost.

RB

Bobsprit December 26th 04 07:55 PM

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.

I guess I missed the pic of Scotty Potti on Katy's boat.

RB

katysails December 26th 04 09:40 PM

It's not like we're going anywhere but from the dock to the boat it's a
swimmable distance..and Choppie's not fat at all...he's an Imperial
standard...they are much larger than the one's usually seen...Russian
bloodlines...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.

CN






Bell December 27th 04 02:57 AM

Bobsprit wrote:
May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.


Get a portabote. More payload, stows properly and far better
performance that Neal wouldn't know about. They are not too
attractive, but a dink is about being safe and practical 1st and
foremost.
I have one for sale on e-bay. I'll only charge you 2 times what have in
it, not the 4 times that I have set as the reserve

RB





Maxprop December 27th 04 03:43 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.


At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but nothing rows
or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10, she and
Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.


Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination. He's a
strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't seen him
in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that canine.

Max



katysails December 27th 04 03:46 AM

Mean you haven't heard me yelling "nyet" at him when he does something
wrong??? BTW, he loves borscht...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

It's not like we're going anywhere but from the dock to the boat it's a
swimmable distance..and Choppie's not fat at all...he's an Imperial
standard...they are much larger than the one's usually seen...Russian
bloodlines...


Ah, so that's why he responds to Das Vidanya, and not Hi, Chopper.

Max




katysails December 27th 04 04:00 AM

Chopper is the only dog I've ever seen that can run heeled over at 45
degrees....he's a terror on curves...when he was younger he jumped off the
deck (on topof our garage) into the driveway...Thought for sure he would
have broken a leg or four but he just shook himself off and kept
going...we're going to have to get him some sunglasses, though...he's 9 now
and starting to get cataracts...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.


At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but nothing
rows or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10,
she and Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.


Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination. He's
a strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't seen
him in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that
canine.

Max




Capt. Neal® December 27th 04 08:43 PM

I agree with you on this one, Maxpoop.

If one is going to be a yachtsman, having a decent
dinghy is of paramount importance. Skimping you
your dinghy makes your entire operation a shabby
one.

A proper rowing and sailing dinghy opens up a whole
new world of sailing enjoyment and security.

One of the primary purposes of a proper dinghy
is to be able to row out to weather a large anchor
to use as a kedge in case one finds oneself aground
and in trouble on a lee shore. Katy's present dinghy
would sink before the job was done and her ship
could be destroyed all for the lack of a proper
dinghy.

The girl needs to get serious about sailing.

CN


"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.


At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but nothing rows
or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10, she and
Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.


Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination. He's a
strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't seen him
in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that canine.

Max




katysails December 27th 04 09:28 PM

Katy's dink doesn't sink...it just ships a lot of water...it has so much
positive floatation that the most it would do is turtle over...we have no
desire for a sailing dink...and we have no desire for an engine on the back
of the dink we have...we like how we do things..it is no reflection on
anything since many of the people at the yacht club have similar dinks as
ours...thank you for your concern, but there's really nor reason to fret..if
we were going to have an "accident" it would have occurred by now...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I agree with you on this one, Maxpoop.

If one is going to be a yachtsman, having a decent
dinghy is of paramount importance. Skimping you
your dinghy makes your entire operation a shabby
one.

A proper rowing and sailing dinghy opens up a whole
new world of sailing enjoyment and security.

One of the primary purposes of a proper dinghy
is to be able to row out to weather a large anchor
to use as a kedge in case one finds oneself aground
and in trouble on a lee shore. Katy's present dinghy
would sink before the job was done and her ship
could be destroyed all for the lack of a proper
dinghy.

The girl needs to get serious about sailing.

CN


"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.


At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but nothing
rows
or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10, she
and
Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.


Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination.
He's a
strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't seen
him
in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that
canine.

Max






Capt. Neal® December 27th 04 10:34 PM

Sorry, Katy, but I worry about people I like who often sound
clueless.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Katy's dink doesn't sink...it just ships a lot of water...it has so much
positive floatation that the most it would do is turtle over...we have no
desire for a sailing dink...and we have no desire for an engine on the back
of the dink we have...we like how we do things..it is no reflection on
anything since many of the people at the yacht club have similar dinks as
ours...thank you for your concern, but there's really nor reason to fret..if
we were going to have an "accident" it would have occurred by now...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I agree with you on this one, Maxpoop.

If one is going to be a yachtsman, having a decent
dinghy is of paramount importance. Skimping you
your dinghy makes your entire operation a shabby
one.

A proper rowing and sailing dinghy opens up a whole
new world of sailing enjoyment and security.

One of the primary purposes of a proper dinghy
is to be able to row out to weather a large anchor
to use as a kedge in case one finds oneself aground
and in trouble on a lee shore. Katy's present dinghy
would sink before the job was done and her ship
could be destroyed all for the lack of a proper
dinghy.

The girl needs to get serious about sailing.

CN


"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.

At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but nothing
rows
or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10, she
and
Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.

Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination.
He's a
strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't seen
him
in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that
canine.

Max







katysails December 28th 04 12:07 AM

Like I said...I'm not worried...we've had it out in 3 footers, motorboat
wake, and all sorts of ansties and it hasn't sunk yet...beats the heck out
of the old inflatable we used to have...now that thing was a piece of
work...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Sorry, Katy, but I worry about people I like who often sound
clueless.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Katy's dink doesn't sink...it just ships a lot of water...it has so much
positive floatation that the most it would do is turtle over...we have no
desire for a sailing dink...and we have no desire for an engine on the
back
of the dink we have...we like how we do things..it is no reflection on
anything since many of the people at the yacht club have similar dinks as
ours...thank you for your concern, but there's really nor reason to
fret..if
we were going to have an "accident" it would have occurred by now...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I agree with you on this one, Maxpoop.

If one is going to be a yachtsman, having a decent
dinghy is of paramount importance. Skimping you
your dinghy makes your entire operation a shabby
one.

A proper rowing and sailing dinghy opens up a whole
new world of sailing enjoyment and security.

One of the primary purposes of a proper dinghy
is to be able to row out to weather a large anchor
to use as a kedge in case one finds oneself aground
and in trouble on a lee shore. Katy's present dinghy
would sink before the job was done and her ship
could be destroyed all for the lack of a proper
dinghy.

The girl needs to get serious about sailing.

CN


"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.

At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat
builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake
dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now
and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but
nothing
rows
or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10, she
and
Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.

Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination.
He's a
strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't
seen
him
in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that
canine.

Max









Capt. Neal® December 28th 04 02:32 AM

We call them 'deflatables'. They are worthless for anything other
than going flat at the worst of times.

CN



"katysails" wrote in message ...
Like I said...I'm not worried...we've had it out in 3 footers, motorboat
wake, and all sorts of ansties and it hasn't sunk yet...beats the heck out
of the old inflatable we used to have...now that thing was a piece of
work...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Sorry, Katy, but I worry about people I like who often sound
clueless.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Katy's dink doesn't sink...it just ships a lot of water...it has so much
positive floatation that the most it would do is turtle over...we have no
desire for a sailing dink...and we have no desire for an engine on the
back
of the dink we have...we like how we do things..it is no reflection on
anything since many of the people at the yacht club have similar dinks as
ours...thank you for your concern, but there's really nor reason to
fret..if
we were going to have an "accident" it would have occurred by now...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I agree with you on this one, Maxpoop.

If one is going to be a yachtsman, having a decent
dinghy is of paramount importance. Skimping you
your dinghy makes your entire operation a shabby
one.

A proper rowing and sailing dinghy opens up a whole
new world of sailing enjoyment and security.

One of the primary purposes of a proper dinghy
is to be able to row out to weather a large anchor
to use as a kedge in case one finds oneself aground
and in trouble on a lee shore. Katy's present dinghy
would sink before the job was done and her ship
could be destroyed all for the lack of a proper
dinghy.

The girl needs to get serious about sailing.

CN


"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

After reading your post about your overloaded dinghy I
feel I must comment for your safety and that of your
loved ones.

You should look for a bigger dinghy. Something in the ten-foot
range should suffice for your load.

May I suggest you look at a Walker Bay 10. You can sail it
and you can motor it and it carries a much larger load
than your present little pram.

At a port not far from south from where Katy sails lives a boat
builder
named Mike Kiefer. He's built some of the most beautiful lapstrake
dinks
over the past 20 years or so, and a few of them come up for sale now
and
then. They take a bit of maintenance and a lot of varnish, but
nothing
rows
or sails better than his boats. For the price of a Walker Bay 10, she
and
Mr. Sails could have one of Mike's boats.

BTW, put that fat dog on a diet before he gets
a stroke or something.

Chopper could not be termed "fat" by any stretch of the imagination.
He's a
strapping, big poodle with very slender lines, and while I haven't
seen
him
in full gallop, I imagine he's quite an athlete. No adipose on that
canine.

Max










Maxprop December 28th 04 03:27 AM


"katysails" wrote in message

Chopper is the only dog I've ever seen that can run heeled over at 45
degrees....he's a terror on curves...when he was younger he jumped off the
deck (on topof our garage) into the driveway...Thought for sure he would
have broken a leg or four but he just shook himself off and kept
going...we're going to have to get him some sunglasses, though...he's 9
now and starting to get cataracts...


Too late. Sunglasses prevent cataracts, but have little effect after
inception.

Max



Lady Pilot December 28th 04 07:18 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


That same non-captain that accused me of flirting with him? hehee

LP (looks like Katysails got her canine a shock collar for Christmas!)



Capt. Neal® December 28th 04 05:10 PM

Living in Colorado at high altitudes like you do BB, you
should also worry about cataracts because the sun's
rays are stronger up there. Make sure your sun glasses
are stopping UVA, UVB, UVC, UVD, etc.

CN


wrote in message ...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:45:22 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote:



I know a sailor who had cataracts real bad in both eyes. It got
so he could hardly see at all and had to wear sunglasses all the
time even inside.

He got surgery and had two new artificial lenses put in and
now he can see better than I can. Funny thing, though, they
put two different fixed focus lenses in - one for reading and
one for distance. It took him a while to get used to it but now
the brain just uses whichever eye is suitable for the task and
he doesn't even have to think about it.

I wonder if a dog's brain can do the same?


Maybe you can offer yourself for the research?

BB



Seahag December 29th 04 03:08 PM

Gives his fur that lovely pink color!

Seahag

"katysails" wrote;
Mean you haven't heard me yelling "nyet" at him when he does something
wrong??? BTW, he loves borscht...

"Maxprop" wrote:

"katysails" wrote in message

It's not like we're going anywhere but from the dock to the boat it's a
swimmable distance..and Choppie's not fat at all...he's an Imperial
standard...they are much larger than the one's usually seen...Russian
bloodlines...


Ah, so that's why he responds to Das Vidanya, and not Hi, Chopper.




katysails December 29th 04 11:34 PM

I used too much bluing on him once and he was the lovliest shade of sky blue
when the sun shone on him...he's mopey right now...Uncle Ray the vet said he
ahs to have some surgery to remove a dewclaw that grew back and
infected...he regrew his whole digit! Now it needs to be amputated. I
think he knows what we were talking about because he's sulking in front of
the fireplace and won't play with his toys.

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
Gives his fur that lovely pink color!

Seahag

"katysails" wrote;
Mean you haven't heard me yelling "nyet" at him when he does something
wrong??? BTW, he loves borscht...

"Maxprop" wrote:

"katysails" wrote in message

It's not like we're going anywhere but from the dock to the boat it's
a swimmable distance..and Choppie's not fat at all...he's an Imperial
standard...they are much larger than the one's usually seen...Russian
bloodlines...

Ah, so that's why he responds to Das Vidanya, and not Hi, Chopper.






DSK December 30th 04 02:35 AM

katysails wrote:
I used too much bluing on him once and he was the lovliest shade of sky blue
when the sun shone on him...


You mean like a Pict?!?

... he's mopey right now...Uncle Ray the vet said he
ahs to have some surgery to remove a dewclaw that grew back and
infected...he regrew his whole digit! Now it needs to be amputated.


Yuck. One of our Chesapeakes had the same problem.

... I
think he knows what we were talking about because he's sulking in front of
the fireplace and won't play with his toys.


Smart dog. He's probably worried.

We've been lucky in that our dogs have *loved* going to the vet. It's
true that we cultivate this attitude by making it as much of a treat as
possible for them. Our old dog was a star, everybody quit work and came
over to talk to him and make a fuss.

Regards
Doug King


katysails December 30th 04 11:51 AM

Choppie likes going to the vets...we've known this guy since he graduated
from med school way back in 1972....Choppie boards there when we go far away
and the girls in the kennel take him out to play...he's never really been
sick except for a few ear infections so I'm thinking he doesn't feel very
well...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
I used too much bluing on him once and he was the lovliest shade of sky
blue when the sun shone on him...


You mean like a Pict?!?

... he's mopey right now...Uncle Ray the vet said he ahs to have some
surgery to remove a dewclaw that grew back and infected...he regrew his
whole digit! Now it needs to be amputated.


Yuck. One of our Chesapeakes had the same problem.

... I think he knows what we were talking about because he's sulking in
front of the fireplace and won't play with his toys.


Smart dog. He's probably worried.

We've been lucky in that our dogs have *loved* going to the vet. It's
true that we cultivate this attitude by making it as much of a treat as
possible for them. Our old dog was a star, everybody quit work and came
over to talk to him and make a fuss.

Regards
Doug King




DSK December 30th 04 01:51 PM

katysails wrote:
Choppie likes going to the vets...we've known this guy since he graduated
from med school way back in 1972....


You're lucky. Our best vet moved away.


... he's never really been
sick except for a few ear infections so I'm thinking he doesn't feel very
well...


Poor guy. And no matter how well they understand plain English, there
are still things you can't explain to them. Give him an extra treat from me!

DSK


Capt. Neal® December 30th 04 11:44 PM


"DSK" wrote in message ...
katysails wrote:
Choppie likes going to the vets...we've known this guy since he graduated
from med school way back in 1972....


You're lucky. Our best vet moved away.


... he's never really been
sick except for a few ear infections so I'm thinking he doesn't feel very
well...


Poor guy. And no matter how well they understand plain English, there
are still things you can't explain to them. Give him an extra treat from me!

DSK


And make him even fatter? He probably has CAD as it is.

CN

katysails December 31st 04 01:31 AM

My "fat" dog:

http://community.webshots.com/user/katysails



Capt. Neal® December 31st 04 04:01 AM

Just look at that tail. A big glob of fat there on the end of it . . .

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
My "fat" dog:

http://community.webshots.com/user/katysails



Maxprop February 2nd 05 05:36 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


Cataract surgery for cats and dogs costs roughly $150, takes 10 minutes, and
generally only one clear eye is required for a pet to function normally.
Anyone who'd put down a pet due to cataracts is slime.

Max



katysails February 2nd 05 11:57 AM

Besides that, I get a discount for my year's in the pet care
industry...we're more concerned about whether he has bone cancer at this
point...that would be the final adios...I don't believe in putting pets
through something like that where they can't understand why and the cost is
prohibitive...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


Cataract surgery for cats and dogs costs roughly $150, takes 10 minutes,
and generally only one clear eye is required for a pet to function
normally. Anyone who'd put down a pet due to cataracts is slime.

Max




Maxprop February 2nd 05 02:49 PM


"katysails" wrote in message

Besides that, I get a discount for my year's in the pet care
industry...we're more concerned about whether he has bone cancer at this
point...that would be the final adios...I don't believe in putting pets
through something like that where they can't understand why and the cost
is prohibitive...


Indeed. We put Jasmine, our last golden retriever, down after discovering
an osteosarcoma on that portion of skull between her eyes. At the least it
would have killed her eventually, but at worst she would have suffocated as
the tumor enlarged down into her nasal passages.

Hope Chopper is okay. How old is he?

Max



Maxprop February 2nd 05 02:50 PM


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:36:27 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


Cataract surgery for cats and dogs costs roughly $150, takes 10 minutes,
and
generally only one clear eye is required for a pet to function normally.
Anyone who'd put down a pet due to cataracts is slime.

Max


Katy wears coats made from little doggies.


You would know, Cruella DeBill.

Max



Capt. Neal® February 2nd 05 11:23 PM


"Donal" wrote in message ...
Anyone who would spend $150 dollars on a pet has definitely got their
priorities wrong.

That money could feed 5 hungry African children for months.


Spend money on the animals here or the animals there. What's the difference?

CN


katysails February 3rd 05 03:30 AM

He turned 9 on Dec. 14.....we're watching the surgery site for
regrowth....so far, so good....he has two other lumps, though; one on his
tail and the other under his armpit, that we're watching...think those are
just lipid type lumps...he still thinks he's a puppy...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Besides that, I get a discount for my year's in the pet care
industry...we're more concerned about whether he has bone cancer at this
point...that would be the final adios...I don't believe in putting pets
through something like that where they can't understand why and the cost
is prohibitive...


Indeed. We put Jasmine, our last golden retriever, down after discovering
an osteosarcoma on that portion of skull between her eyes. At the least
it would have killed her eventually, but at worst she would have
suffocated as the tumor enlarged down into her nasal passages.

Hope Chopper is okay. How old is he?

Max




Capt. Neal® February 3rd 05 03:32 AM


"katysails" wrote in message ...
He turned 9 on Dec. 14.....we're watching the surgery site for
regrowth....so far, so good....he has two other lumps, though; one on his
tail and the other under his armpit, that we're watching...think those are
just lipid type lumps...he still thinks he's a puppy...


Duh! You said that big lump on his tail was just his haircut . . .

CN

katysails February 3rd 05 03:34 AM

In order for those children to receive the $15, the original donation would
have to be more like %250 to cover the costs of management fees,
etc....There is nothing wrong with taking care of one of God's creatures
that you love, be it pet or another human being. Most people who are
generous and kind to pets are also generous and kind in charitable giving.
People who are mean to animals generally don't give a rat's ass about people
at all...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


Cataract surgery for cats and dogs costs roughly $150, takes 10 minutes,

and
generally only one clear eye is required for a pet to function normally.


You could probably feed an African family for 6 months with $150.



Anyone who'd put down a pet due to cataracts is slime.


Anyone who would spend $150 dollars on a pet has definitely got their
priorities wrong.

That money could feed 5 hungry African children for months.


Regards


Donal
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katysails February 3rd 05 03:55 AM

You can't see the tumour on his tail, dimbulb...it's under the skin and only
felt....duh...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
He turned 9 on Dec. 14.....we're watching the surgery site for
regrowth....so far, so good....he has two other lumps, though; one on his
tail and the other under his armpit, that we're watching...think those
are just lipid type lumps...he still thinks he's a puppy...


Duh! You said that big lump on his tail was just his haircut . . .

CN




Donal February 3rd 05 07:21 AM


"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


Cataract surgery for cats and dogs costs roughly $150, takes 10 minutes,

and
generally only one clear eye is required for a pet to function normally.


You could probably feed an African family for 6 months with $150.



Anyone who'd put down a pet due to cataracts is slime.


Anyone who would spend $150 dollars on a pet has definitely got their
priorities wrong.

That money could feed 5 hungry African children for months.


Regards


Donal
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Scott Vernon February 4th 05 02:29 AM


"Donal" wrote

You are mistaken when you say that people who spend money on their

pets are
"generous". Most pets are, in fact, a substitute for
family/lovers/slaves.


WTF are you babbling about? I have a family and a wife/lover/slave.
We have a dog too.

People who own pets are seeking affection or
obedience, and are far more likely to be self centred than non-pet

owners.


Bure bull ****, Donut. Pure British Bull ****!

Scotty



Maxprop February 4th 05 05:08 AM


"Donal" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in message


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

If he goes blind they can always have him put to sleep.

Seems like I recall somebody here having a poor little
kitten put to sleep because it went blind.


Cataract surgery for cats and dogs costs roughly $150, takes 10 minutes,

and
generally only one clear eye is required for a pet to function normally.


You could probably feed an African family for 6 months with $150.



Anyone who'd put down a pet due to cataracts is slime.


Anyone who would spend $150 dollars on a pet has definitely got their
priorities wrong.

That money could feed 5 hungry African children for months.


Might we all presume that you'll revisit this inane, left-wing blather and
apply it to yourself the next time you spend $150 either frivolously or for
something you really don't *need?*

Donal, properly cleaned and prepared, could feed 10 hungry African families
for months. g

Max



Donal February 4th 05 07:24 AM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
In order for those children to receive the $15, the original donation

would
have to be more like %250 to cover the costs of management fees,
etc....


I think that you have been subjected to propoganda.

There are many disreputable charities who deliver very little of their
income to the needy. However, most mainstream charities are quite
efficient. The St. Vincent de Paul, for example, spends 90% of its income
on the needy.

http://www.cdi.gov.au/submissions/19...centDePaul.doc


There is nothing wrong with taking care of one of God's creatures
that you love, be it pet or another human being. Most people who are
generous and kind to pets are also generous and kind in charitable giving.
People who are mean to animals generally don't give a rat's ass about

people
at all...


That sounds really nice. In fact I'd suggest that it is politically
correct rubbish.

You are mistaken when you say that people who spend money on their pets are
"generous". Most pets are, in fact, a substitute for
family/lovers/slaves. People who own pets are seeking affection or
obedience, and are far more likely to be self centred than non-pet owners.



Regards


Donal
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Capt. Mooron February 4th 05 12:39 PM


"Donal" wrote in message

You are mistaken when you say that people who spend money on their pets
are
"generous". Most pets are, in fact, a substitute for
family/lovers/slaves. People who own pets are seeking affection or
obedience, and are far more likely to be self centred than non-pet owners.


Donal... my chickens won't obey any commands I give them... I think they are
plotting something. The goose just wants a pet and a handout of food....
the Rhodesian Ridge back thinks it owns me.... what am I doing wrong?

PS... I think the canary and the parrot are backing the chook revolt... I'm
thinking of invoking the patriot act .

CM



Capt. Mooron February 4th 05 12:39 PM


"Maxprop" wrote in message

Donal, properly cleaned and prepared, could feed 10 hungry African
families for months. g


I know for a fact they really like Missionaries.... they claim the meat is
sweet and tender.

CM



JG February 4th 05 06:49 PM

You need to stay away from the chickens.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message

You are mistaken when you say that people who spend money on their pets
are
"generous". Most pets are, in fact, a substitute for
family/lovers/slaves. People who own pets are seeking affection or
obedience, and are far more likely to be self centred than non-pet
owners.


Donal... my chickens won't obey any commands I give them... I think they
are plotting something. The goose just wants a pet and a handout of
food.... the Rhodesian Ridge back thinks it owns me.... what am I doing
wrong?

PS... I think the canary and the parrot are backing the chook revolt...
I'm thinking of invoking the patriot act .

CM





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