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Jim Cate wrote:
.... Our two initial trips were in fairly breezy weather, with chop and whitecaps from the winds and wakes from power boats going in and out of Galveston Bay. Wow! You went sailing in whitecaps? That means the wind might have been as much as ten or twelve knots! What a manly sailor dude you are! ... The Mac 26M handles such conditions quite well, and seems to have lots of stiffness when under sail. Of course. It's shaped like a box, naturally it's going have a lot of initial stability. I haven't had time to become proficient with most of the boat's features. What, like all the ropes and stuff? ... All in all, however, it has a nice sweet "feel" under sail, which is what I'm primarily interested in. Oh yeah, I bet. Sporty, just like a 505 or an Etchells! Fresh Breezes (or something)- Doug King |
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DSK wrote: Jim Cate wrote: .... Our two initial trips were in fairly breezy weather, with chop and whitecaps from the winds and wakes from power boats going in and out of Galveston Bay. Wow! You went sailing in whitecaps? That means the wind might have been as much as ten or twelve knots! What a manly sailor dude you are! More like 20 knots. ... The Mac 26M handles such conditions quite well, and seems to have lots of stiffness when under sail. Of course. It's shaped like a box, naturally it's going have a lot of initial stability. Just the opposite, actually. It becomes increasingly stiff when heeled. I haven't had time to become proficient with most of the boat's features. What, like all the ropes and stuff? Sure thing. - Lots of ropes and other stuff. ... All in all, however, it has a nice sweet "feel" under sail, which is what I'm primarily interested in. Oh yeah, I bet. Sporty, just like a 505 or an Etchells! Fresh Breezes (or something)- Doug King Thanks Doug. - And the same to you! Jim |
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"Jim Cate" wrote in message ... More like 20 knots. Jim http://www.havencraft.com/n26m.asp http://www.gatewaysailing.com/newboa...onsPricing.htm http://www.a1sailboats.com/newboatprint.htm http://www.macgregorsailboats.com/ma...t-pricing.html Never thought the mac was much of a SAILBOAT because I noticed fairly early that none of these hucksters offer something that most 21st century sailors consider indispensable, WIND instruments. If your boat doesn't have WIND INSTRUMENTS, how did you determine the wind was blowing 20KTS? John Cairns |
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Interesting. - Doug said that the wind speed might have been as much as
10-12 knots. Why do you criticize my estimate of the wind speed but not his, when he wasn't even there? I was basing my estimate on observations relative to the Beaufort Scale and past experience, plus the observations of an experienced captain who was with me at the time, along with weather reports.- This is a new boat, and I am in the process of equipping it, and it's going to take a little time. - Also, I don't plan on making any extended ocean passages. Jim John Cairns wrote: "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... More like 20 knots. Jim http://www.havencraft.com/n26m.asp http://www.gatewaysailing.com/newboa...onsPricing.htm http://www.a1sailboats.com/newboatprint.htm http://www.macgregorsailboats.com/ma...t-pricing.html Never thought the mac was much of a SAILBOAT because I noticed fairly early that none of these hucksters offer something that most 21st century sailors consider indispensable, WIND instruments. If your boat doesn't have WIND INSTRUMENTS, how did you determine the wind was blowing 20KTS? John Cairns |
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Also, I don't plan on making any extended ocean passages.
What does that have to do about whether you have instruments or not???? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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katysails wrote: Also, I don't plan on making any extended ocean passages. What does that have to do about whether you have instruments or not???? Well, If you are only going to take your boat out in Galveston Bay within a few miles of land, wind speed and weather aren't as critical as when you plan on sailing from Kemah to Galveston to Corpus, or to Brownsville. In other words, if you are only interested in day sailing, you might be willing to rely on hand-held instruments, or on observations based on the Beaufort scale, when you know you can motor back to port in 20 minutes. - Does that answer your question Katy? Jim |
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Does that answer your question Katy? Yeah...it says a lot about you..... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Jim Cate wrote:
Interesting. - Doug said that the wind speed might have been as much as 10-12 knots. Why do you criticize my estimate of the wind speed but not his, when he wasn't even there? Because whitecaps usually begin forming around 8 knots and are regular at 10. If a doofus like you notices them then it might be blowing as much as twelve, but it still could only have been eight. If motorboat wakes are bigger than the chop, then the wind wasn't anywhere near 20. DSK |
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Because whitecaps usually begin forming around 8 knots and are regular
at 10. Doug, this is not always the case. We had 15-20 knots as conditions built and it was quite a while before whitecaps developed. Worse, you know this can be the case. Stop acting like a Scotty Potty for once. You weren't there so you don't know the conditions. The pic tells only tells us so much and only in that moment. You're some idiotic weatherman. RB |
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