I would have taken out the reef long ago.


Why? We were MOTORING, not sailing


Yup.

RB

Very true. As I stated once before, and got ridiculed


Some complex scotty potty has!



RB

katysails wrote:

Does that answer your question Katy?


Yeah...it says a lot about you.....

The boat has two knot meters (one providing speed over the bottom and
another showing speed through the water; I have a hand-held anemometer;
it has a GPS chartreader, several sources of weather reports, etc. With
these instruments plus observations of the effects of the wind on the
boat and the water, and since I don't intend to make long blue water
voyages, I don't see the great urgency of having a permanent anemometer
on board. Even if I get into racing, I think the two knotmeters are
more important for providing an immediate indication of how the boat is
doing under the particular conditions, and how it is responding to
adjustments in the sails, rigging, etc. In other words, if changes in
the sails under the particular wind conditions result in better speed,
pointing, etc., then the boat is doing what I want it to do.

Katy, I'm not sure you have a proper appreciation for the great
traditions and history of sailing through the years. - With respect to
the suggestion that the Macs aren't real sailing vessels because most of
the dealers don't advertise the availability of anemometers for them,
did Columbus, or Magellan, or the captain of the Mayflower, etc., have
anemometers onboard their vessels? Did the clipper ships, or even more
modern, transitional sailing vessels? For example, The Elissa, launched
in 1873, on which I crewed several years, was in service for so many
years that it is thought to have more miles at sea than any other
sailing vessel, all without the benefits of an anemometer. I also don't
recall the Vikings having anemometers aboard their boats, or the Greeks
or Romans, etc., - In other words, are you saying that these people
were not true SAILORS, or that their ships weren't true SAILBOATS
because they didn't have anemometers? For thousands of years sailors
have been carrying on the great traditions and adventures of sailing
relying on their own observations of wind and sea conditions. They
navigated and sailed around the world under the most extreme conditions
relying on their observations of current conditions interpreted in light
of their experience at sea, their training, and their knowledge of the
characteristics of their respective vessels. - I hope to do the same
with my new Mac 26M, with or without a permanently mounted anemometer.

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote


several sources of weather reports,

name them.

SV

Tut tut, Loco don't you know that New York City is the center of the
universe? g

Really, it never ceases to amaze me how New Yorkers are so like Iowans in
assuming entire country is like their own back yard,


Actually, Dave, you have it backwards. I never assumed that docking is the same
anywhere. But Loco and Scotty and Doug simply insisted that using thimbles and
shackles (as done here) is NEVER practiced.
Now that I've proven them wrong again, they are simply attempting to redirect
the argument.
They lost.

RB

You are an idiot. Why don't you get two wheels and some electric winches.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


katysails wrote:

Does that answer your question Katy?


Yeah...it says a lot about you.....

The boat has two knot meters (one providing speed over the bottom and
another showing speed through the water; I have a hand-held anemometer;
it has a GPS chartreader, several sources of weather reports, etc. With
these instruments plus observations of the effects of the wind on the
boat and the water, and since I don't intend to make long blue water
voyages, I don't see the great urgency of having a permanent anemometer
on board. Even if I get into racing, I think the two knotmeters are
more important for providing an immediate indication of how the boat is
doing under the particular conditions, and how it is responding to
adjustments in the sails, rigging, etc. In other words, if changes in
the sails under the particular wind conditions result in better speed,
pointing, etc., then the boat is doing what I want it to do.

Katy, I'm not sure you have a proper appreciation for the great
traditions and history of sailing through the years. - With respect to
the suggestion that the Macs aren't real sailing vessels because most of
the dealers don't advertise the availability of anemometers for them,
did Columbus, or Magellan, or the captain of the Mayflower, etc., have
anemometers onboard their vessels? Did the clipper ships, or even more
modern, transitional sailing vessels? For example, The Elissa, launched
in 1873, on which I crewed several years, was in service for so many
years that it is thought to have more miles at sea than any other
sailing vessel, all without the benefits of an anemometer. I also don't
recall the Vikings having anemometers aboard their boats, or the Greeks
or Romans, etc., - In other words, are you saying that these people
were not true SAILORS, or that their ships weren't true SAILBOATS
because they didn't have anemometers? For thousands of years sailors
have been carrying on the great traditions and adventures of sailing
relying on their own observations of wind and sea conditions. They
navigated and sailed around the world under the most extreme conditions
relying on their observations of current conditions interpreted in light
of their experience at sea, their training, and their knowledge of the
characteristics of their respective vessels. - I hope to do the same
with my new Mac 26M, with or without a permanently mounted anemometer.

Jim

Don't know... you're the expert. Is it the same for gay guys?
(hint: ask your boyfriend)

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:35:53 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Yep. Same here in the SF bay... usually 15-17kts when they start to form.

So it's still the same for gay guys?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Yeah, but you're an idiot.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 15 Jun 2004 04:22:27 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote
this crap:

Cause I'm lazy? It WAS blowing hard all morning, it had just calmed down
some, so I had Lisa steer while I went to unshake the reef, grabbed the
camera and went forward to take the pic.

Bad answer. I would have taken out the reef long ago.



Nice boat, but why are you reefed in such light wind?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Bobsprit wrote:
...But Loco and Scotty and Doug simply insisted that using thimbles and
shackles (as done here) is NEVER practiced.

I never said anything of the kind. All I said is that I've never seen it
or heard of it.

Now that I've proven them wrong again

What exactly have you proven?

Boobsie, you're really nuts.

DSK

...But Loco and Scotty and Doug simply insisted that using thimbles and
shackles (as done here) is NEVER practiced.

I never said anything of the kind. All I said is that I've never seen it
or heard of it.


Holy backpedal, Batman!!!!


RB