You claim to sail a lot but
onviously know little and you avoid racing because you know you'd get
dusted.

Claim? I post pics of my sailing every week. Only bitter old fools like you are
upset by them! I spent the last three days sailing and will sail again today on
a Sea Pearl.
Enjoy your trawler, Doug!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Then why don't you actually go sailing? So far you seem to spend all
your time auctioning junk on E-Bay and playing with your sock puppets.

Doug, the fact that you think I operate under different identities here only
outlines what a dumbass you are!
NEVER have I used a sockpuppet. Neal, Gilligan and a few others have...I think
Gilligan does several.

RB

John Cairns wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

More like 20 knots.
Jim


http://www.havencraft.com/n26m.asp

http://www.gatewaysailing.com/newboa...onsPricing.htm

http://www.a1sailboats.com/newboatprint.htm

http://www.macgregorsailboats.com/ma...t-pricing.html

Never thought the mac was much of a SAILBOAT because I noticed fairly early
that none of these hucksters offer something that most 21st century sailors
consider indispensable, WIND instruments. If your boat doesn't have WIND
INSTRUMENTS, how did you determine the wind was blowing 20KTS?

John Cairns

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Considering your comments about the Mac 26 dealers, I have chartered and
observed a number of sailboats of various types, makes, and sizes over
the past 25 years. From my experience and observations, few boats of
similar size, and few under 28-feet or so, have anemometers. - Would
your observations regarding the Mac 26 apply equally to owners of Cats,
O'Days, etc., in the under 28-foot category who also don't have
anemometers? Do your observations regarding anmometers suggest that
these boats aren't real SAILBOATS, and that their owners are not real
SAILORS? Or is this just a Mac-bashing thing?

Also, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the Mac dealers you
listed are "hucksters?" - I'm sure some are, and I'm sure some of them
exaggerate the capabilities of the Mac to their customers (as do some
dealers selling other boats), but running a Mac dealership doesn't seem
like the best "get rich scheme" to me. - It involves selling new boats
for around $27K equipped with motor and trailer; outfitting the boats;
providing instructions and demos, handling the gripes, questions, etc.-
It just doesn't cut it as an easy rip-off. My own experience is that one
can get anything installed that he wants to pay for.

Incidentally, I do have a hand-held anemometer but wasn't using it on
the occasion mentioned. By way of perspective, my boat was delivered and
(partially) outfitted a few weeks ago, and because of a number of other
obligations, I have only been able to take it out two times. Not an
excuse, but it's where I'm at.

Jim

"DSK" wrote ...
Jim, remember...Doug "sails" a Trawler!

as do a lot of 'older' sailors.


And has covered more miles in just the past year than you'll ever travel
by water.

You only went 30 miles?


SV

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Also, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the Mac dealers you
listed are "hucksters?" - I'm sure some are, and I'm sure some of them
exaggerate the capabilities of the Mac to their customers (as do some
dealers selling other boats), but running a Mac dealership doesn't seem
like the best "get rich scheme" to me. - It involves selling new boats
for around $27K equipped with motor and trailer; outfitting the boats;
providing instructions and demos, handling the gripes, questions, etc.-
It just doesn't cut it as an easy rip-off. My own experience is that one
can get anything installed that he wants to pay for.
Jim

Jim, if you had done any research at all you would have figured out that you
could "run a mac dealership" out of your garage. No one said it was "an easy
rip-off" though in some cases, based on the amount of optional equipment I
see on these used boats offered for sale at places like yachtworld, it
probably is. Dealers don't have to make exaggerated claims about the macs'
capabilities, the builder already does a nice job all by their lonesome. And
no, the average dealer probably won't get rich, but if they're a halfway
decent salesman (after all, after researching thee question, someone is
actually considering purchasing) you could probably make a decent income
selling these things.Change the word in your post from "mac" to "Yugo"
"boat" to "car", delete a few lines and you might get my point. Most car
dealers would salivate over the prospect of a buyer coming into their store
pre-sold AND with an eye to loading up their purchase with every available
option and then some, based on a quick perusal of the yachtworld ads, most
mac buyers do exactly this.
John Cairns

"John Cairns" wrote

Jim, if you had done any research at all you would have figured out that
you
could "run a mac dealership" out of your garage.

When I first heard of the Macs, and was interested, I stopped at the dealer
near Breezewood PA. It was a guys house, who then drove to his barn where he
had one boat inside. it didn't look so ugly in the unlit barn.

--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

Jim, remember...Doug "sails" a Trawler!

as do a lot of 'older' sailors.

My buddy is 61 and sails his Bristol 27 across the Atlantic every few years.
There's a 89 year old fellow at my club who sails a Rhodes 19 several days per
week. I just sold a CD 25 belong to a 74 year old doctor. He moved up to a
Pearson 33.
Sailors sail. I guess you're getting ready to dump that sailboat, eh, Scotty
Potty?


RB

it didn't look so ugly in the unlit barn.

So tempting...but I'll let poor Scotty Potti off this time.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote

My buddy is 61 and sails his Bristol 27 across the Atlantic every few
years.
There's a 89 year old fellow at my club who sails a Rhodes 19 several days
per
week. I just sold a CD 25 belong to a 74 year old doctor.

There you have it folks......this makes bob**** a real sailor.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Jim, remember...Doug "sails" a Trawler!

as do a lot of 'older' sailors.

My buddy is 61 and sails his Bristol 27 across the Atlantic every few
years.

RB

So what's your excuse? How many times have you sailed across the Atlantic?
Hell, I'll make it easier. How many times have you been offshore?
John Cairns