"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Ric,

Perhaps you would tell the ASA Group what is so desirable about this US
VESSEL, other than its Documentation. Tell us, is it a one-off vessel
that is not to be found anywhere else in the world other than the USA?
What is it about this boat?

The USA did not make you an undesirable. You had achieved this status
before you reached our shores. We have a right to not want you or to do
business with you. Your status is of your own making!!!

If that boat has a US Documentation it is entitled to US RIGHTS not
available to UNDESIRABLES!!!!

Take your book's profits somewhere else, as a Nation we (I) don't want
to deal with you.

Ole Thom

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:32:56 GMT, Plastiekske
wrote:

felton wrote:



BTW: how did you know I was from the "say somewhere in the Antwerp area" ? :)

Frank

Well, you did mention Belgium and I spent some time in Antwerp and
remember walking along the docks, so I just took a wild guess:)
Antwerp is lovely place, but I grew up in West Texas, so don't let my
opinion go to your head:)

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Hey dumbass... this is not bob. It's a sockpuppet.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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bob, the dum-dum is flogging a book, trying to make money off his criminal
actions.

if he really wanted to buy a boat there are lots of places to buy one.
Indeed,
the French areas of the Caribbean are reportedly chock-a-block with boats
sailed by Frenchies there and then left behind.

France would be a great country if the French would leave.

Oh there's always loonies out there, especially in Amerika. But here in
France people are better balanced, and also not so gun-crazy.

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Here are some keywords for you: ASSHOLE, STUPID

No need to investigate. It's an observable fact.

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"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
"Ric" wrote in message
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt.American wrote:



Whats the name of the book you wrote?

You could try following the link that he posted.

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country"

Whats wrong crybaby, no ones stupid enough to have a traitor for a
citizen?


and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it

Then dont buy it douch bag! Keep your sticking money.

as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want
the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US
war
machine.

Kiss my ass dick breath, I had waves and friendly conversation from
boats and people from all over this earth. Sounds like the USCG needs
to be inspecting traitors like you, no telling what your stealing or
who your selling out.. Do us all a favor and stay out of US waters,
your not welcome. Your Un-desireable.

I just hope the National security office picks up on you.

Key words for echelon NIS, CIA, FBI : Bomb-nuclear-Bio dirty . End of
Key words

Please investigate this mans (Ric the author) actions he is an
undesireable alien , track him down and ship him to gitmo.

Capt. American


Capt. American

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

a real estate lawyer and you are preaching about admiralty law?

try telling it to the CG judges, "the courts" in this case, and see if they
agree.

you generalized your specifics, davy, to the universal. it is a dumb mistake
to make for someone with "30 years experience" even if it is in real estate, or
wills, or incorporations, or matrimonial, or literary, or patents, or defending
DWI's.

Try telling it to the CG judges and see how long you keep the documentation.

dave, *I* suggest you take a look at the word "control" as interpreted by
the
courts.

Don't need to, Jax. I've been a practicing lawyer for 30 years, and the term
"control" and its meaning comes up about once a week in my practice areas.
Matter of fact, I've written 3 legal memoranda in the last month on the
meaning of "control" under various statutes and regulations.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Thom, that clown is doing nothing but flogging his book trying to make money
off his criminal actions.

Ric,

Perhaps you would tell the ASA Group what is so desirable about this US
VESSEL, other than its Documentation. Tell us, is it a one-off vessel
that is not to be found anywhere else in the world other than the USA?
What is it about this boat?

The USA did not make you an undesirable. You had achieved this status
before you reached our shores. We have a right to not want you or to do
business with you. Your status is of your own making!!!

If that boat has a US Documentation it is entitled to US RIGHTS not
available to UNDESIRABLES!!!!

Take your book's profits somewhere else, as a Nation we (I) don't want
to deal with you.

Ole Thom

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

On 11 Mar 2004 16:35:30 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

a real estate lawyer and you are preaching about admiralty law?

try telling it to the CG judges, "the courts" in this case, and see if they
agree.

you generalized your specifics, davy, to the universal. it is a dumb mistake
to make for someone with "30 years experience" even if it is in real estate, or
wills, or incorporations, or matrimonial, or literary, or patents, or defending
DWI's.

Try telling it to the CG judges and see how long you keep the documentation.

You are the one who posted some legal verbage in which it is clear to
all but you that the words "effective control" related to ownership,
not the casual operation of a recreational vessel. If you know of a
specific case that illustrates your contention, why not post it? I
have a hard time believing that if I were to allow my Italian friend
to sail my boat, I would put my documentation in jeopardy.

I'll try and keep my anxiety under control until the confusion is
resolved:)

dave, *I* suggest you take a look at the word "control" as interpreted by
the
courts.

Don't need to, Jax. I've been a practicing lawyer for 30 years, and the term
"control" and its meaning comes up about once a week in my practice areas.
Matter of fact, I've written 3 legal memoranda in the last month on the
meaning of "control" under various statutes and regulations.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

felton wrote:

Well, you did mention Belgium and I spent some time in Antwerp and
remember walking along the docks, so I just took a wild guess:)
Antwerp is lovely place, but I grew up in West Texas, so don't let my
opinion go to your head:)

hey, being from Antwerp, I don't need anyone's opinion to go to my head. The plain and simple truth
is that it's one of the nicest cities of Europe :) (but then again, I might be just slightly
biased).

Now, about this 'what if' scenario you gave, combined with the other discussion in this thread =
could a US-documented yacht have a non-US citizen as a skipper on a delivery along the East Coast
and then out of the USA?

Frank

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Dave wrote:
On 11 Mar 2004 04:59:27 GMT, (JAXAshby) said:


dave, *I* suggest you take a look at the word "control" as interpreted by the
courts.


Don't need to, Jax. I've been a practicing lawyer for 30 years,

Oops! Jax is caught again, I can't wait for the blustering!

Cheers
Marty

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:50:57 GMT, Plastiekske
wrote:

felton wrote:

Well, you did mention Belgium and I spent some time in Antwerp and
remember walking along the docks, so I just took a wild guess:)
Antwerp is lovely place, but I grew up in West Texas, so don't let my
opinion go to your head:)

hey, being from Antwerp, I don't need anyone's opinion to go to my head. The plain and simple truth
is that it's one of the nicest cities of Europe :) (but then again, I might be just slightly
biased).

It did seem very nice, and I was always there in the Winter.


Now, about this 'what if' scenario you gave, combined with the other discussion in this thread =
could a US-documented yacht have a non-US citizen as a skipper on a delivery along the East Coast
and then out of the USA?

Frank

I am no authority, but as a matter of supposition, many boats are
transported by delivery skippers from point A to point B. I would
think it would be prudent to have some sort of written authorization
on board. I am certain it would be simple enough to make an inquiry
of the Coast Guard as to what, if anything, is needed to sail a boat
for an owner to Europe.