"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

This is why I am trying to determine under what flag I can register the boat
I intend to buy. I wish to buy the boat then sail it indefinitely. I don't
intend to "import" it anywhere - for a start where too? I am an NZ citizen,
but haven't lived there for 35 years and have no connections there at all
anymore. I currently reside in France, but will have no more connections to
France once I am on the boat. Where do I therefore register to? Country of
birth? Country of last residence? Neither NZ or France would allow that as I
have no address in either country. Or keep the existing registration (which
seems impossible)? Or can I register it under a flag of convenience like
Panama?

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business if you have no respect
for your freedom.

This is why I am trying to determine under what flag I can register the
boat
I intend to buy. I wish to buy the boat then sail it indefinitely. I don't
intend to "import" it anywhere - for a start where too? I am an NZ
citizen,
but haven't lived there for 35 years and have no connections there at all
anymore. I currently reside in France, but will have no more connections
to
France once I am on the boat. Where do I therefore register to? Country of
birth? Country of last residence? Neither NZ or France would allow that as
I
have no address in either country. Or keep the existing registration
(which
seems impossible)? Or can I register it under a flag of convenience like
Panama?

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
et...

Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business if you have no respect
for your freedom.

What a wacko. The gentleman I intend to buy it from wants my business.

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

breaking the Official Secrets Act in Britain is considered a very serious
offense.

Not hardly the same catagory as a bare tit here.

You did the crime, dude. And you knew it. Yo expect the world to applaud you?

I didn't say I was upset. I actually find it rather amusing that the US and
UK are so annoyed about my book. And even more satisfying when uptight
people like you brand me a criminal!

But by your logic, all the american women who take their bikini tops off
(oooh how naughty) and sip beer (gasp!) on Pampelonne beach in St Tropez
should automatically be arrested by the French police, as that is against
Amerikan law.

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

"Registered" boats a non-citizen can own and operate. "Documented" they can
not.

Well,

I'm not an 'undesirable alien', but I've just recently (three weeks ago)
bought a US registered boat
(lying in Georgia). I was meaning to sail the boat along the East Coast to
Newport, before crossing
the Atlantic to my 'home country' (Belgium).
I was informed by a Flemish counterpart of the ASA that there would be no VAT
(Value Added Tax: 21%
!!!!) due because the boat was built in 1984. Once I got to cutting through
the red tape to get the
boat registered in Belgium, it turned out to be that ... I will have to pay
this additional 21%
(where on earth is the "added value"?).
Because I don't want to save the Belgian economy all by myself, I've decided,
with pain in my heart,
to re-sell the boat.
Should anyone be interested ... http://plastiekske.tripod.com/ForSale
Asking price: US$72500 because I want to make a quick sale (I've paid
US$74500, which already was
IMO a bargain)

Frank

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

no flag. you can't get one. you can, however, register your boat in whatever
state you plan to use it in. your state registration is more or less accepted
in most Carribean countries, except of course you beloved French countries.
There they will fine you for trying to enter without a properly documented
boat.

This is why I am trying to determine under what flag I can register the boat
I intend to buy. I wish to buy the boat then sail it indefinitely. I don't
intend to "import" it anywhere - for a start where too? I am an NZ citizen,
but haven't lived there for 35 years and have no connections there at all
anymore. I currently reside in France, but will have no more connections to
France once I am on the boat. Where do I therefore register to? Country of
birth? Country of last residence? Neither NZ or France would allow that as I
have no address in either country. Or keep the existing registration (which
seems impossible)? Or can I register it under a flag of convenience like
Panama?

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

That's not true. Please produce a reference to such a regulation. If this were
true it would be impossible for a tourist to do a bare boat charter of a
documented vessel.

What is true is that to carry passengers for hire you need a license which
requires citizenship. I believe that immigration papers are accepted for the
lowest level (launch driver perhaps?). I think there a similar restrictions on
other commercial vessels.




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I believe that documenting a vessel in the US is a privilege of US
citizenship.

that is a fact. non citizens are not even allowed to use documented boats
unless a citizen is aboard

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
breaking the Official Secrets Act in Britain is considered a very serious
offense.

Actually, it is not particularly serious as the max sentence is only 2
years. In any case, the rest of the world considers it a bit of a joke.

Not hardly the same catagory as a bare tit here.

Actually the max sentence in USA for "indecency" is slightly longer than 2
years in some states, so you're wrong.

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

"Plastiekske" wrote in message
...
Well,

I'm not an 'undesirable alien', but I've just recently (three weeks ago)
bought a US registered boat

When you bought it, did the US authorities allow you a transit period to
take the boat back to Europe under their flag, or were you expected to
transfer it immediately to Belgian flag before taking possession?

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Ric wrote:

so you're wrong.


Ric:

Stick around a bit, with Jax, you'll find this to be
a common occurrence.

Cheers
Marty