"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Jax said: bet you thought Caryl Chessman was "cute", too.

I have no idea who that person is....

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Jax compared a serial killer to Simon Cowell :Caryl Chessman=20

You really do have a very warped mind...what does a music producer have =
to do with a wackoid sociopathic murderer? And why would you interpret =
that I think someone is "cute" (which BTW means, bow-legged and not =
attractive) because I said they looked like someone else? If I said =
that I thought you looked like Mr Rogers on a bad sweater day does that =
imply I think you or Mr Rogers is cute? Get a life Jax....the Gong Show =
went off the air a long time ago...

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On 10 Mar 2004 21:05:14 -0600, Dave wrote:

On 11 Mar 2004 01:46:10 GMT, (JAXAshby) said:

sorry, jeffies, people have lost their documentation by letting noncitizens
control (meaning no citizen onboard) their documented boats.

I'd suggest you take a careful look at the meaning of "control" in this
context, bearing in mind that there are specific provisions dealing with
owners, officers and directors of a corporation. My suspicion is that
"control" is not synonymous with "operate." For example, if a person has the
power to elect a majority of a corporation's directors, he's generally said
to "control" the corporation, and might also be said to "control" the vessel
owned by the corporation, even if he's 1000 miles away from it.




Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

I was thinking the same thing, Dave. In the context that Jax quoted,
but seems to misunderstand, I gathered the term control was *as in
effective ownership*, not the simple operation of a boat. In other
words, no "citizen" acting as a straw man while the boat is
effectively owned, or controlled, by a noncitizen.

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

Caryl Chessman was not a killer, as I recall. Kates, for someone who said she
didn't know who the guy was you certainly made some strong incriminations.

Jax compared a serial killer to Simon Cowell :Caryl Chessman=20

You really do have a very warped mind...what does a music producer have =
to do with a wackoid sociopathic murderer? And why would you interpret =
that I think someone is "cute" (which BTW means, bow-legged and not =
attractive) because I said they looked like someone else? If I said =
that I thought you looked like Mr Rogers on a bad sweater day does that =
imply I think you or Mr Rogers is cute? Get a life Jax....the Gong Show =
went off the air a long time ago...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

dave, *I* suggest you take a look at the word "control" as interpreted by the
courts.

sorry, jeffies, people have lost their documentation by letting noncitizens
control (meaning no citizen onboard) their documented boats.

I'd suggest you take a careful look at the meaning of "control" in this
context, bearing in mind that there are specific provisions dealing with
owners, officers and directors of a corporation. My suspicion is that
"control" is not synonymous with "operate." For example, if a person has the
power to elect a majority of a corporation's directors, he's generally said
to "control" the corporation, and might also be said to "control" the vessel
owned by the corporation, even if he's 1000 miles away from it.




Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 

no, fleton. you were NOT thinking. quit lying like that.

sorry, jeffies, people have lost their documentation by letting noncitizens
control (meaning no citizen onboard) their documented boats.

I'd suggest you take a careful look at the meaning of "control" in this
context, bearing in mind that there are specific provisions dealing with
owners, officers and directors of a corporation. My suspicion is that
"control" is not synonymous with "operate." For example, if a person has the
power to elect a majority of a corporation's directors, he's generally said
to "control" the corporation, and might also be said to "control" the vessel
owned by the corporation, even if he's 1000 miles away from it.




Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

I was thinking the same thing, Dave. In the context that Jax quoted,
but seems to misunderstand, I gathered the term control was *as in
effective ownership*, not the simple operation of a boat. In other
words, no "citizen" acting as a straw man while the boat is
effectively owned, or controlled, by a noncitizen.

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Ric,

You covert American Rights but knock our values.

No I don't I just want to buy a boat there. Why do you imagine I covet your
rights? I think Amerikans have far less rights than I have as a New
Zealander, or even as a French person. We have far more personal freedoms, a
freer press, a fairer government. I would never want to live in your
country - I just want to buy the boat then get out fast.

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Ric,
Aren't you afriad some half-crazed operative is going to come guning for you
one day?

Oh there's always loonies out there, especially in Amerika. But here in
France people are better balanced, and also not so gun-crazy.

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"Plastiekske" wrote in message
...
Ric wrote:

So what was the status of the boat after it was deleted from
documentation?
As you mentioned earlier, you never registered it in Belgium because of
the
tax. Was the boat just not registered anywhere in the interim?

well, since I bought it less than three weeks ago, it's still lying in
it's slip in Georgia,
undocumented.

There's a catch-22 situation in this: in order to register the boat in
Belgium, it has to be
physically present in Belgium, but ... in order to sail it to Belgium, it
has to be registered :(

Ah that's useful to know, so in my case, as I want to sail it back to NZ
over a period of several years, I could just sail it unregistered.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, the guy knowingly and deliberately committed a crime breaking a low
the
Brits feel is vital for their national security.

Read my book you muppet. You don't know what you are talking about clearly.

Now, the clown wants us to grant him a visa so he can what? Knowingly and
deliberately commit a crime breaking a law we feel vital for our national
security?

What law might that be? Buying a boat is now a crime in the USA? Wouldn't
surprise me...