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Frank Maier March 18th 04 02:33 AM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Peter Wiley wrote:
Dave wrote:
Sorry, Peter, but a U.S. Constitutional law scholar you're not.


How true. Perhaps you'd like to tell me that the police in the USA can
stop any/all vehicles on a public road and search them any time,
without any reason to suspect they're transporting something illegal?

....snip...

Ahhh, yes. Driving through Mississippi in an expensive (foreign)
sportscar with long hair in the 60s... After pulling me over, their
stopping policy (I assume it was their policy because they used it on
me more than once) was to kneel behind their opened doors with their
guns drawn and hammers back and yell, "Outa the car, muthah****ah.
Hands on the hood!"

The good old days...

Frank

Jonathan Ganz March 18th 04 04:54 AM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Well, I guess you weren't black. Did you have a confederate flag on
the back window?

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 17 Mar 2004 18:33:02 -0800, (Frank Maier) said:

Ahhh, yes. Driving through Mississippi in an expensive (foreign)
sportscar with long hair in the 60s... After pulling me over, their
stopping policy (I assume it was their policy because they used it on
me more than once) was to kneel behind their opened doors with their
guns drawn and hammers back and yell, "Outa the car, muthah****ah.
Hands on the hood!"


Funny. I spent two summers driving two different foreign cars (though not
sports cars--a Morris Minor and a Volvo PV444) with out-of-state plates
through most of rural Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina and northwest

Florida
in the 60s and was never stopped once.

However, I think Frank's imaginings are present day imaginings, not

ancient
history.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




DD730 March 19th 04 01:58 PM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Peter Wiley wrote:
In article
, Dave
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:23:07 +1100, Peter Wiley
said:

Somehow it escapes
the right wing nutcases like CA that this violates US citizens'
right to be free from arbitrary search.


Sorry, Peter, but a U.S. Constitutional law scholar you're not.


How true. Perhaps you'd like to tell me that the police in the USA can
stop any/all vehicles on a public road and search them any time,
without any reason to suspect they're transporting something illegal?
That the police in the USA can enter & search any & all houses in case
there are illegal substances/activities occurring?

If so, you're worse off than I am where I live, which would only
mildly surprise me. Here the Govt has difficulty in trying to legally
search vehicles on a public highway for smuggled tobacco. Since the
tax rates got so high, tobacco smuggling has become very lucrative
which I also think is funny. Law of diminishing returns....

Whatever. Designer I know in the USA registered his personal vessel in
Panama just to avoid the unceasing and increasing USCG rules, plus he
wanted the right to travel peaceably without being sarched by the US
Navy. Guess a person who's a quintessential American individualist who
likes his pre-WOD freedoms of movement looks like some antisocial
individual these days. Your loss.

Peter Wiley




Frank Maier March 19th 04 08:47 PM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote: Well, I guess you
weren't black. Did you have a confederate flag on
the back window?

"Dave" wrote
(Frank Maier) said:

Ahhh, yes. Driving through Mississippi in an expensive (foreign)
sportscar with long hair in the 60s... After pulling me over, their
stopping policy (I assume it was their policy because they used it on
me more than once) was to kneel behind their opened doors with their
guns drawn and hammers back and yell, "Outa the car, muthah****ah.
Hands on the hood!"


Funny. I spent two summers driving two different foreign cars (though not
sports cars--a Morris Minor and a Volvo PV444) with out-of-state plates
through most of rural Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina and northwest

Florida
in the 60s and was never stopped once.

However, I think Frank's imaginings are present day imaginings, not

ancient
history.


Or perhaps it's because they knew my license plate because I was
active with SNCC during that time. The scars I have from Louisiana and
Mississippi police dogs are not imaginary.

But I suppose you were down there to support your brothers in the
White Citizens' Council, asshole.

Frank

katysails March 20th 04 01:52 AM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Jonathan Ganz March 20th 04 06:50 AM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Only white, racist ones.

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Jonathan Ganz March 20th 04 06:50 AM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Sort of like Cheney, who had "other priorities" when it came to
military service. Now if we could only find out why Bushy failed
to show for his physical....

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 19 Mar 2004 12:47:21 -0800, (Frank Maier) said:

But I suppose you were down there to support your brothers in the
White Citizens' Council, asshole.


You suppose incorrectly (so what else is new?). I was down there earning

the
money to pay my college tuition.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Scott Vernon March 20th 04 12:25 PM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
what about the white unracist ones.



"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Only white, racist ones.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




Jonathan Ganz March 20th 04 05:53 PM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
They don't get paid.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
what about the white unracist ones.



"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Only white, racist ones.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein






Jonathan Ganz March 21st 04 12:09 AM

"Undesirable alien" buying a US flagged boat
 
Which one?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:50:56 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Now if we could only find out why Bushy failed
to show for his physical....


Could you tell us again what you were doing during the war, Jonathan?


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27





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