The picture looks like both mast and boom are bent, how much to replace
both of them?. If he ordered sails instead this tell me to replace the
boom and
mast costs are much more. Seems like he would want newer. Instead of
what looks to be old aluminum.


NH_/)_


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
How does one properly set the sails with boom being bent
or does it matter-

The boom, being bent, will never let a sail set correctly. Still worse,
the
strength of the boom has most probably been compromised. It's also an ugly
thing to see on any boat. The boom should be replaced, but the darn fool
ordered sails instead!

RB

The picture looks like both mast and boom are bent, how much to replace
both of them?. If he ordered sails instead this tell me to replace the
boom and

I don't see any indication that the mast is damaged. Replacing the boom would
be easy and not that expensive. He might even do it for free as the rig size is
pretty common. Of course, finding the exact boom might not happen, which shows
how foolish he was to order new sails first.
Ass-backwards lubberly thinking by Capt. Neal...as always. You note he's not
defending this point. How could he? The boom is BENT!

RB

One more comment then I will return the floor back to the experts :-)

Aluminum being that old would naturally bend -- its a softer metal
and I'm sure back then the quality -- stability was not great.

I would like to know more how the mast and boom are made
---what materials the use today if someone would like to email me



NH_/)_

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The picture looks like both mast and boom are bent, how much to replace
both of them?. If he ordered sails instead this tell me to replace the
boom and

I don't see any indication that the mast is damaged. Replacing the boom
would
be easy and not that expensive. He might even do it for free as the rig
size is
pretty common. Of course, finding the exact boom might not happen, which
shows
how foolish he was to order new sails first.
Ass-backwards lubberly thinking by Capt. Neal...as always. You note he's
not
defending this point. How could he? The boom is BENT!

RB

Having learned that the boom can or will bend.
I found this site to be interesting.

http://www.optimistusa.com/OptimistLASpars.asp

NH_/)_

Well I'm going to have to speak up for the fine Captn here. If he has
ordered sails that are loose footed it does not matter the least whetther
the boom is bent or not.
I also have a vague memory of discussing his boom a couple of years ago, in
another context ofcourse. If I recollect he seemed to have done something to
the boom that will never allow it to break. Possibly bend but not break.

The boat of the fine Capt is truly a bluewater vessel ready for any weather.
The only thing that outdoes the vessel is her skipper that will surely see
to it she never will get caught unexpectedly in foul weather.

You guys are just jealous. With due rights of course.


NH_/)_ wrote:
One more comment then I will return the floor back to the experts :-)

Aluminum being that old would naturally bend -- its a softer metal
and I'm sure back then the quality -- stability was not great.

I would like to know more how the mast and boom are made
---what materials the use today if someone would like to email me



NH_/)_

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The picture looks like both mast and boom are bent, how much to
replace both of them?. If he ordered sails instead this tell me to
replace the boom and

I don't see any indication that the mast is damaged. Replacing the
boom would be easy and not that expensive. He might even do it for
free as the rig size is pretty common. Of course, finding the exact
boom might not happen, which shows how foolish he was to order new
sails first.
Ass-backwards lubberly thinking by Capt. Neal...as always. You note
he's not defending this point. How could he? The boom is BENT!

RB

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

The boat of the fine Capt is truly a bluewater vessel ready for any weather.

Per, what kind of sad troll is this?
For shame!

Bent boom? Unbreakable? Oh, okay!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit wrote:
The boat of the fine Capt is truly a bluewater vessel ready for any
weather.

Per, what kind of sad troll is this?
For shame!

Bent boom? Unbreakable? Oh, okay!

Bwahahahaha!

RB


After reading the rest of this thread I expect you to take back what you
just said.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

RB & Nh/,

The Boom on Simples boat was broken in two. He is saying now it was
broken in a Gale.

What ever but the truth is he converted a end sheeted boom to a mid
sheeted boom and it couldn't take the load of the tack without the
sheet.

The repairs he made was to insert Galv pipes inside the boom. The boom
is probably three times heavier but should be strong enough now.

Now RB, you are showing your lack of sailing knowledge, once again!

The Simpleton has said he ordered a main with a shelf. Now anyone, with
the least amount of sailing knowledge, knows that a shelved main sets
exactly as a free footed main. The bearing points being at the tack and
the clew. The shelf only fills in the void between the foot and the
boom. It has nothing to do with trim or how the sail sets. It is made of
a very stretchy material that has no effect on sail set. The boom could
be a "C" shape or even a :^) "Wish Bone"

RB get some smarts! Enlarge your brain some to match you GREAT BIG
MOUTH!

AND; "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom

For an old fart you're very perceptive, Old Thom!

S.Simon - is a boom really even necessary?


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
RB & Nh/,

The Boom on Simples boat was broken in two. He is saying now it was
broken in a Gale.

What ever but the truth is he converted a end sheeted boom to a mid
sheeted boom and it couldn't take the load of the tack without the
sheet.

The repairs he made was to insert Galv pipes inside the boom. The boom
is probably three times heavier but should be strong enough now.

Now RB, you are showing your lack of sailing knowledge, once again!

The Simpleton has said he ordered a main with a shelf. Now anyone, with
the least amount of sailing knowledge, knows that a shelved main sets
exactly as a free footed main. The bearing points being at the tack and
the clew. The shelf only fills in the void between the foot and the
boom. It has nothing to do with trim or how the sail sets. It is made of
a very stretchy material that has no effect on sail set. The boom could
be a "C" shape or even a :^) "Wish Bone"

RB get some smarts! Enlarge your brain some to match you GREAT BIG
MOUTH!

AND; "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom

I suppose the simple one could just have the sailmaker design the new main
allowing for the extra draft of the bent boom. No problem.
It's also obvious in the photo that the boom has been bent because of the use
of one of those unsailor like mid boom cabin top mainsheet systems. I guess he
could flip the boom over and in time it would either straighten itself out or
be bent in the other direction.
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