On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?

There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:26:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with
some original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff they
hear in the media, day after day, week after week, month after month.
As Russia reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around
threatening our lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems
have us focused on lipstick.

Eisboch






Uh...it is Ms. Palin who brought up the lipstick issue and the Republicans
who tried to make a bigger issue of it.

Better the Republicans talk about lipstick than any serious issue.

That is the "Republican Way," to accuse their detractors of their own
tricks and lies. Rove taught them well but it's getting old, htey need a
new trick...

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?

There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80

D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch
Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?
There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80




One supposes that no one on his committee asked SW Tom questions,
because, well, he doesn't respond well to being questioned.

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:26:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with
some original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff they
hear in the media, day after day, week after week, month after month.
As Russia reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around
threatening our lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems
have us focused on lipstick.

Eisboch





Uh...it is Ms. Palin who brought up the lipstick issue and the Republicans
who tried to make a bigger issue of it.

Better the Republicans talk about lipstick than any serious issue.

That is the "Republican Way," to accuse their detractors of their own
tricks and lies. Rove taught them well but it's getting old, htey need a
new trick...


It may be getting old, but you have to remember that the voting bloc
includes millions of Boobus Americanus types who vote Republican because
they like receiving anal intercourse.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?

There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80

Want to know the complete and total truth?

Nobody on the my review committee had a clue about the subject matter
and took the recommendation of the Department Chair as to it's
validity - and she didn't have a clue and had to take the word of one
of the maybe 200 people in the world who actually did understand the
subject.

Absolutely true. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch
Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?
There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.
Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80

Want to know the complete and total truth?

Nobody on the my review committee had a clue about the subject matter
and took the recommendation of the Department Chair as to it's
validity - and she didn't have a clue and had to take the word of one
of the maybe 200 people in the world who actually did understand the
subject.

Absolutely true. :)


Too bad. A real committee might have made you work for it.

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch


Most of the ones I know are making positive changes in this grim world.

Most aren't. As the dean at Santa Clara University told me. Want to be an
engineer, get a masters, want to teach get a Phd. And a lot of the Phd.'s I
had for teachers sucked as teachers also.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

HEY!!!!

Some of us overeducated morons live in the real world you know.

Like this one?
http://ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/

"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Sep 14, 2:47 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

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On Sep 14, 9:23 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message

he doesn't even know the RIGHT wing party line let alone the left wing
line....

TI layed off a bunch of people because the market for chips tanked.

so much for your assertion that, if you work hard, you'll get
rewarded. you can work your ass off and still get ****canned.

I was
layed off from TI, because there was no money in the disk drive supply
business. So Silicon Systems was written off. Am I bitter. Nope, was the
7th layoff I went through.

gee. and what does that routinely do when whole communities lose their
economic bases?

Most because I worked for a lot of startup
companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.

sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed

How about rich DNC contributors?