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"hk" wrote in message
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Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right uses
religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for hypocrisy's sake
alone.

Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to abort
a child with a handicap.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right uses
religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for hypocrisy's sake
alone.

Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to abort
a child with a handicap.

Eisboch




Pro-choicers do not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, but
anti-abortionists want to force their beliefs on pro-choicers.

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"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right
uses religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for
hypocrisy's sake alone.

Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to
abort a child with a handicap.

Eisboch


Pro-choicers do not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, but
anti-abortionists want to force their beliefs on pro-choicers.



If pro-choicers did not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, why do we
have Roe vs. Wade?

Eisboch

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hk wrote:


Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right
uses religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for
hypocrisy's sake alone.

Did you notice how the Dem's were tripping over themselves to see who
can talk about God or say "God bless" the most?

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hk wrote:

:Eisboch wrote:
: "hk" wrote in message
: . ..
:
: Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right uses
: religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for hypocrisy's sake
: alone.
:
: Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to abort
: a child with a handicap.
:
:
:Pro-choicers do not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, ...
:

Well, yeah, they do.

:
:... but
:anti-abortionists want to force their beliefs on pro-choicers.
:

I know it's hard for folks like you, but let's try and look at this
from the other side and then form an analogy that will feel the same
to you as abortion does to them.

Suppose I believe I should be able to murder unwanted people pretty
much at will for any reason or for no reason at all other than that
they inconvenience me. You disagree and go on about the sanctity of
human life and how killing them is wrong and want laws to stop me. My
response is that very few of the two leggers are actually human, so
killing the others is no worse than cutting a fingernail.

So, wouldn't there be something wrong with you NOT wanting to 'force
your view' on me?

That's how they feel about abortion. For you it's an intellectual
question. For them it's a case of whether murder is acceptable.
Discussion of the issue as if it is just an intellectual question for
them, as well, is simply a waste of time and effort and pretending
that there is something 'wrong' because they don't view it the way you
do is merely specious.

--
"The gom jabbar, the high-handed enemy...It kills only animals."

-- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, Dune

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Eisboch wrote:
: "hk" wrote in message
: . ..
:
: Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right uses
: religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for hypocrisy's sake
: alone.
:
: Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to abort
: a child with a handicap.
:
:
:Pro-choicers do not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, ...
:

Well, yeah, they do.

:
:... but
:anti-abortionists want to force their beliefs on pro-choicers.
:

I know it's hard for folks like you, but let's try and look at this
from the other side and then form an analogy that will feel the same
to you as abortion does to them.

Suppose I believe I should be able to murder unwanted people pretty
much at will for any reason or for no reason at all other than that
they inconvenience me. You disagree and go on about the sanctity of
human life and how killing them is wrong and want laws to stop me. My
response is that very few of the two leggers are actually human, so
killing the others is no worse than cutting a fingernail.

So, wouldn't there be something wrong with you NOT wanting to 'force
your view' on me?

That's how they feel about abortion. For you it's an intellectual
question. For them it's a case of whether murder is acceptable.
Discussion of the issue as if it is just an intellectual question for
them, as well, is simply a waste of time and effort and pretending
that there is something 'wrong' because they don't view it the way you
do is merely specious.



Your supposition is silliness.
If the anti-abortionists were truly against killing human beings, they
would be opposed to capital punishment and war. But most aren't; they
pervert their religious texts to justify capital punishment and war.

In my heart, I believe the anti-abortionists are that way because of
psychological, rather than religious reasons, anyway. It is a
patriarchal belief, even though some women share in it. It is a method
to control women.

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Eisboch wrote:
: "hk" wrote in message
: . ..
:
: Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right uses
: religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for hypocrisy's sake
: alone.
:
: Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to abort
: a child with a handicap.
:
:
:Pro-choicers do not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, ...
:

Well, yeah, they do.

:
:... but
:anti-abortionists want to force their beliefs on pro-choicers.
:

I know it's hard for folks like you, but let's try and look at this
from the other side and then form an analogy that will feel the same
to you as abortion does to them.

Suppose I believe I should be able to murder unwanted people pretty
much at will for any reason or for no reason at all other than that
they inconvenience me. You disagree and go on about the sanctity of
human life and how killing them is wrong and want laws to stop me. My
response is that very few of the two leggers are actually human, so
killing the others is no worse than cutting a fingernail.

So, wouldn't there be something wrong with you NOT wanting to 'force
your view' on me?

That's how they feel about abortion. For you it's an intellectual
question. For them it's a case of whether murder is acceptable.
Discussion of the issue as if it is just an intellectual question for
them, as well, is simply a waste of time and effort and pretending
that there is something 'wrong' because they don't view it the way you
do is merely specious.


you beg your own question

you called them "people"

that is the issue

Some folks think of a collection of cells as a person and some don't.

Vince

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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Eisboch wrote:
: : "hk" wrote in message
: : . ..
: :
: : Ain't that the truth. It is amazing and disgusting how the far right uses
: : religion. If there is a hell, they'll all burn in it for hypocrisy's sake
: : alone.
: :
: : Right beside the "pro-choicers" who condemn women for choosing not to abort
: : a child with a handicap.
: :
: :
: :Pro-choicers do not force their beliefs on anti-abortionists, ...
: :
:
: Well, yeah, they do.
:
: :
: :... but
: :anti-abortionists want to force their beliefs on pro-choicers.
: :
:
: I know it's hard for folks like you, but let's try and look at this
: from the other side and then form an analogy that will feel the same
: to you as abortion does to them.
:
: Suppose I believe I should be able to murder unwanted people pretty
: much at will for any reason or for no reason at all other than that
: they inconvenience me. You disagree and go on about the sanctity of
: human life and how killing them is wrong and want laws to stop me. My
: response is that very few of the two leggers are actually human, so
: killing the others is no worse than cutting a fingernail.
:
: So, wouldn't there be something wrong with you NOT wanting to 'force
: your view' on me?
:
: That's how they feel about abortion. For you it's an intellectual
: question. For them it's a case of whether murder is acceptable.
: Discussion of the issue as if it is just an intellectual question for
: them, as well, is simply a waste of time and effort and pretending
: that there is something 'wrong' because they don't view it the way you
: do is merely specious.
:
:
:Your supposition is silliness.
:

To you. I'm sorry you suffer from such intellectual limitations.

I note you don't have an answer.

:
:If the anti-abortionists were truly against killing human beings, they
:would be opposed to capital punishment and war. But most aren't; they
:pervert their religious texts to justify capital punishment and war.
:

They're against killing INNOCENT human beings, as in those who haven't
done something like kill other people or attack them.

:
:In my heart, I believe the anti-abortionists are that way because of
:psychological, rather than religious reasons, anyway. It is a
:patriarchal belief, even though some women share in it. It is a method
:to control women.
:

Then in your heart you are just an intellectually challenged loonytoon
who is unable to see anyone's view but his own.

--
"The supreme satisfaction is to be able to despise one’s
neighbour and this fact goes far to account for religious
intolerance. It is evidently consoling to reflect that the
people next door are headed for hell."
-- Aleister Crowley

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"hk" wrote in message
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In my heart, I believe the anti-abortionists are that way because of
psychological, rather than religious reasons, anyway. It is a patriarchal
belief, even though some women share in it. It is a method to control
women.


Sure. Right. A method to control women......

It has absolutely nothing to do with the rights of the unborn child, does
it?

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


In my heart, I believe the anti-abortionists are that way because of
psychological, rather than religious reasons, anyway. It is a patriarchal
belief, even though some women share in it. It is a method to control
women.


Sure. Right. A method to control women......

It has absolutely nothing to do with the rights of the unborn child, does
it?

Eisboch




Ahh...the Fetus Rights Movement, a division of the Fundamentalist Borg
Church, no doubt.