On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......

Hillary has a chance, since she's as tough as McCain.
Obama's downfall was Oprah's endorsement.
Personally, I think he's solid, and race isn't his primary motivator.
But when he let Oprah get aboard, it racialized Obama.
Still can't predict anything, the way things change.
All the candidates are dip****s anyway.
I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.
I want Dick Nixon!
In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic

On Mar 14, 4:50*pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-

Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-

Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

On Mar 15, 12:14*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-

Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

Hey, don't you already have it?

Sure! And I like 'em! LOL!

If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman/listings/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

Man, that looks like an overgrown fiberglass jon-boat

Which is alright if you like it. It's really not my taste though.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-

Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

I don't know how old you are Vic, but if you plan on keeping that boat until
you get anywhere near the age of a JohnH... you're gonna want & need a
comfortable head for you and the misses... plus what about the afternoon
naps required by the over 60 crowd?
On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-
Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.
Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

I don't know how old you are Vic, but if you plan on keeping that boat until
you get anywhere near the age of a JohnH... you're gonna want & need a
comfortable head for you and the misses... plus what about the afternoon
naps required by the over 60 crowd?
On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.




If I still lived in Florida, that's for sure the boat I'd buy for
inshore and nearshore fishing, especially along the ICW. Maybe one a bit
shorter, a 2180DLX. They're pretty close to the perfect "Florida" boat
for that sort of fishing, and you can take them out on the ocean.
They're stable, they don't draw much water, they're easy to clean out
and they're durable.

On the other hand, if you are old and useless, and prone to pretending
you are playing golf, and if you book passage on diaper cruises, Don is
right...you want a head and a place for a nap.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.


On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
If I knew I'd want to do a lot of overnighters or "cruise" for a week
or so, I'd probably go for something like a Mac 26.
Like the CS, it is very low draft and easy to tuck into shallow
shelter. Both boats are inexpensive and can move cheaply under power.
I'm a Chevy guy.
But the utility of the CS reminds me I did have a '67 Ford F-100. Put
a cab-high cap on the bed and traveled all over the west with the wife
and 2 small kids, sleeping in the truck bed.
One dusk in a Nebraska campground we were sitting in the truck bed
with the tailgate down and the cap lid up sipping some iced tea before
turning in. A nice little Porsche pulled in to the empty camp spot in
our view and a young lad and lassie jumped out and erected a small
tent and went inside. Took them a while to put the tent up, but since
she was a real knockout I was sure the efforts were worth it.
When they climbed into that tent was only time in my life I remember
actually feeling pangs of jealousy.
They weren't in that tent for two minutes when the wind started
howling and the skies opened up. The wind was rocking my truck
to no end, but was headed aft so we didn't even close it up.
That tent came down within a minute and the young couple scrambled
out to fix it, getting quickly drenched. Back in they went, but this
time the tent went down in maybe 30 seconds. They tried again, then
gave up and scrambled into the Porsche, looking like muddy wet
puppies.
Later that night as I made a bathroom trip I saw their sleeping
silhouettes, sitting up, heads drooped down, and I felt sorry for them
being in that predicament, and shamed at my jealousy.
A few hours later their car starting woke me up, and they were gone.
Hopefully to a nice motel.
Anyway, like a car, truck or camper, I'm planning on getting a boat
that suits my purpose.
That's why I come here. To learn about boats. Well.....

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.


On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
If I knew I'd want to do a lot of overnighters or "cruise" for a week
or so, I'd probably go for something like a Mac 26.


If you think about it, there's enough room forward of the console on the
larger CS's to literally pitch a tent.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.


On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
If I knew I'd want to do a lot of overnighters or "cruise" for a week
or so, I'd probably go for something like a Mac 26.
Like the CS, it is very low draft and easy to tuck into shallow
shelter. Both boats are inexpensive and can move cheaply under power.
I'm a Chevy guy.
But the utility of the CS reminds me I did have a '67 Ford F-100. Put
a cab-high cap on the bed and traveled all over the west with the wife
and 2 small kids, sleeping in the truck bed.
One dusk in a Nebraska campground we were sitting in the truck bed
with the tailgate down and the cap lid up sipping some iced tea before
turning in. A nice little Porsche pulled in to the empty camp spot in
our view and a young lad and lassie jumped out and erected a small
tent and went inside. Took them a while to put the tent up, but since
she was a real knockout I was sure the efforts were worth it.
When they climbed into that tent was only time in my life I remember
actually feeling pangs of jealousy.
They weren't in that tent for two minutes when the wind started
howling and the skies opened up. The wind was rocking my truck
to no end, but was headed aft so we didn't even close it up.
That tent came down within a minute and the young couple scrambled
out to fix it, getting quickly drenched. Back in they went, but this
time the tent went down in maybe 30 seconds. They tried again, then
gave up and scrambled into the Porsche, looking like muddy wet
puppies.
Later that night as I made a bathroom trip I saw their sleeping
silhouettes, sitting up, heads drooped down, and I felt sorry for them
being in that predicament, and shamed at my jealousy.
A few hours later their car starting woke me up, and they were gone.
Hopefully to a nice motel.
Anyway, like a car, truck or camper, I'm planning on getting a boat
that suits my purpose.
That's why I come here. To learn about boats. Well.....

--Vic

The wife and I have taken the tent, thermarests, sleeping bags, and a small
bbq grill and camped from a 15' Whaler.

You'll have a ball!

But, I do like the #3 bow enclosure.
--
John H

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
snip...


That's the idea, somewhat like a 'boom tent' on a small daysailer.