John wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.


The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the port
authority being out sourced. But then this administration out sourced the
running of our top secret sub communication network to India!!! My God our
communication network for our nuclear subs sent to INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying on
in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay income
tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this administration lets
them walk through a tax loop hole....

Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.

HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association
with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay
lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they
actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or
darkie.......



These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s




Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.



I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that
are not theirs.

McCain is an idiot.

Obama is frightening due to his radical racist views and the fact that
he won't put the USA first. If you saw his interview on Fox yesterday
you should realize that he was lying.

Clinton is just a mean and nastly bitch.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:53:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 14, 9:06*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......

These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s

Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out racist
who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. *He
spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.

I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that are
not theirs.

Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?

If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I've watched a lot of Hagee, and unless I'm missed a program or
two, or three, I've never known him to trash Catholics. And even if he
did, how could that be used as spiritual advisorship to McCain?

A rational question for Harry. The answer should be interesting. Might even
have something to do with the question.

But I doubt it.
--
John H

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:06:45 -0700, -rick- wrote:

JimH wrote:

Here is one of the videos they tried to pull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjVp3PLnVs

ok... exactly what did he say that you think is false?

How about his assertion that the white folks in the USA developed AIDS to
get rid of blacks?

I wonder if all those white folks who *have* AIDS were part of that
process.
--
John H

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:51:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 14, 8:51*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......

These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of racists.
Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s

Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual advisor
and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out racist who hates
white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. *He spouted words
right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.

I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that
are not theirs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really? I never heard that, Harry.

seriously.

Because it's pure bull****.

One preacher who made stupid comments endorsed McCain. McCain immediately
repudiated the statements. The preacher was not McCain's pastor, nor was
there any close relationship.

Harry knows this, but he's using the Alan Colmes technique. Try to inject
some minor anti-Republican **** into a conversation to divert attention.


--
John H

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:26:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 14, 10:20*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

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"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association
with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay
lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they
actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or
darkie.......

These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s

Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. *He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.

I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.

Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?

If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.

The spin begins.

Wow, how fast things happen:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...iref=hpmostpop

Coincidence?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just saw an interview with Obama's preecher. He did not answer not one
question, period.. Saw a followup with Obama who stated he had never
heard anything like that from his spiritual advisor. Then when asked
it he had heard it if he would have quit the church. After a brief
pause Obama said, and I quote, "If I had heard it consistantly, I
would have quit". Read it any way you wish.

Well, Obama did say the preacher was like an uncle to him. I found it
astonishing that the preacher never said any of these things when Obama was
in the congregation, in twenty years, almost every Sunday, except when they
had a new kid and couldn't go to church.

That preacher was one careful guy! For twenty years!
--
John H

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:09:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

John wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:

I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.

The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the port
authority being out sourced. But then this administration out sourced the
running of our top secret sub communication network to India!!! My God our
communication network for our nuclear subs sent to INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying on
in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay income
tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this administration lets
them walk through a tax loop hole....
Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.

I'd like to see some support for his submarine communication assertion.

ELF is still operational and run by the USA.

Don't you live near the CG Comm Station on Telegraph Road?

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:45:24 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:06:45 -0700, -rick- wrote:

JimH wrote:

Here is one of the videos they tried to pull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjVp3PLnVs

ok... exactly what did he say that you think is false?

How about his assertion that the white folks in the USA developed AIDS to
get rid of blacks?

I wonder if all those white folks who *have* AIDS were part of that
process.

Here's another of his famous lines, but you probably agree with this one:

"Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t!
Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."
--
John H

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:09:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

John wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.


The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the port
authority being out sourced. But then this administration out sourced the
running of our top secret sub communication network to India!!! My God our
communication network for our nuclear subs sent to INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying on
in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay income
tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this administration lets
them walk through a tax loop hole....

Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.

I'd like to see some support for his submarine communication assertion.
--
John H

On Mar 14, 11:09*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary
continues to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year
association with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news..

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. *Even though some of them may
pay lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when
they actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any
woman or darkie.......

These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s

Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. *He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?
If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam..
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.

The spin begins.

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to a candidate's "spiritual
advisors," anyway. I wouldn't care if any of them prayed to the baseball
gods. The more religion I hear from a candidate, the less likely I am to
vote for that person.

A persons mentor and spiritual advisor is a reflection of that person.

Really? You're Catholic. I'll bet your priest doesn't go around saying
nasty untrue things about people's wives and children like you do.
I'll bet your priest doesn't go around telling lies for days on end
about someone like you do.