"BAR" wrote in message
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McCain is an idiot.

Obama is frightening due to his radical racist views and the fact that he
won't put the USA first. If you saw his interview on Fox yesterday you
should realize that he was lying.

Clinton is just a mean and nastly bitch.



You all should be looking for a third party to step forward. Sounds like
the two you support now seem to feel they are entitled to the power &
prestige of leading the US government. You really need to shake things up
to teach both parties a lesson.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-

Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

I don't know how old you are Vic, but if you plan on keeping that boat until
you get anywhere near the age of a JohnH... you're gonna want & need a
comfortable head for you and the misses... plus what about the afternoon
naps required by the over 60 crowd?
On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-
Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.
Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

I don't know how old you are Vic, but if you plan on keeping that boat until
you get anywhere near the age of a JohnH... you're gonna want & need a
comfortable head for you and the misses... plus what about the afternoon
naps required by the over 60 crowd?
On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.




If I still lived in Florida, that's for sure the boat I'd buy for
inshore and nearshore fishing, especially along the ICW. Maybe one a bit
shorter, a 2180DLX. They're pretty close to the perfect "Florida" boat
for that sort of fishing, and you can take them out on the ocean.
They're stable, they don't draw much water, they're easy to clean out
and they're durable.

On the other hand, if you are old and useless, and prone to pretending
you are playing golf, and if you book passage on diaper cruises, Don is
right...you want a head and a place for a nap.

"Don White" wrote in message
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You all should be looking for a third party to step forward. Sounds like
the two you support now seem to feel they are entitled to the power &
prestige of leading the US government. You really need to shake things up
to teach both parties a lesson.


No sane, competent person wants the job.

Eisboch

On Mar 15, 9:53*am, wrote:
On Mar 14, 11:09*pm, "JimH" wrote:



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So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary
continues to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year
association with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. *Even though some of them may
pay lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when
they actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any
woman or darkie.......

These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s

Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. *He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?
If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.

The spin begins.

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to a candidate's "spiritual
advisors," anyway. I wouldn't care if any of them prayed to the baseball
gods. The more religion I hear from a candidate, the less likely I am to
vote for that person.

A persons mentor and spiritual advisor is a reflection of that person.

Really? You're Catholic. I'll bet your priest doesn't go around saying
nasty untrue things about people's wives and children like you do.
I'll bet your priest doesn't go around telling lies for days on end
about someone like you do.- Hide quoted text -

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My dad is a high priest, and I was once an ordained deacon. I speak
for my self, but I would imagine both of us has done a lot worse than
that. I know I have. Does that disqualify me from having a testimony?

On Mar 15, 9:05*am, BAR wrote:


Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying on
in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay income
tax! *No Bid contracts to American companies and this administration lets
them walk through a tax loop hole....
Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.

I'd like to see some support for his submarine communication assertion.

ELF is still operational and run by the USA.

ELF? As in, E*rth Liber*tion Fr*nt (insert a a o)? Is that who you
mean?

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:05:25 -0400, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:09:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

John wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:

I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.

The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the port
authority being out sourced. But then this administration out sourced the
running of our top secret sub communication network to India!!! My God our
communication network for our nuclear subs sent to INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying on
in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay income
tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this administration lets
them walk through a tax loop hole....
Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.

I'd like to see some support for his submarine communication assertion.

ELF is still operational and run by the USA.

Don't you live near the CG Comm Station on Telegraph Road?

Yup. About two miles or so.
--
John H

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
McCain is an idiot.

Obama is frightening due to his radical racist views and the fact that he
won't put the USA first. If you saw his interview on Fox yesterday you
should realize that he was lying.

Clinton is just a mean and nastly bitch.



You all should be looking for a third party to step forward. Sounds like
the two you support now seem to feel they are entitled to the power &
prestige of leading the US government. You really need to shake things up
to teach both parties a lesson.

I've only supported one political party.

Shake things up? We don't want to have a government of the week like
those countries with parliamentary systems.

wrote:
On Mar 15, 9:05 am, BAR wrote:

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying on
in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay income
tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this administration lets
them walk through a tax loop hole....
Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.
I'd like to see some support for his submarine communication assertion.
ELF is still operational and run by the USA.

ELF? As in, E*rth Liber*tion Fr*nt (insert a a o)? Is that who you
mean?

Extremely Low Frequency, it is a worldwide communications facility
specifically designed to communicate to submarines underwater.

"BAR" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:09:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

John wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:

I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.

The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the
port authority being out sourced. But then this administration out
sourced the running of our top secret sub communication network to
India!!! My God our communication network for our nuclear subs sent to
INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is
relying on in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have
to pay income tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this
administration lets them walk through a tax loop hole....
Imagine that, high taxes are a problem.

I'd like to see some support for his submarine communication assertion.

ELF is still operational and run by the USA.

Don't you live near the CG Comm Station on Telegraph Road?

I friend of mine has a place not too far from the Clam Lake, Wisconsin ELF
transmitter/antenna site. I thought he told me it was shut down a couple of
years ago. I don't know if that applies to the other site in Michigan or
not.

Are there other ELF locations in the US?