On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:01:41 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:15:56 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.
18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?

Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!
I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.


Well, let's see. My Key West has a 40 gallon tank. The engine, a Yamaha
150, will get about 5.42 miles per gallon cruising at 3000 rpm. So, 100
miles would consume about 18.4 gallons.

http://tinyurl.com/yoh3ez

Maybe my calculations are way off!


You're going to love the smoothness of that engine from 3500 to 4000
rpm, where I suspect you will find your cruise speed niche.

I can't wait for spring to get here so I can try it out. I've got to make
sure the neck is in good shape before I go beating the water!
--
John H

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:47:24 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:29:57 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:44:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:58:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" ask wrote in message
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You folks really know how to pile it on.

Time to drop it already.............

http://www.eisboch.com/snowmoon.gif

Eisboch

Whatever.


You just uttered the most famous word in an 8th grade classroom! Did
you
know that?

Whaaaaaaaattttttttevvvverrrrr.

Damn, you're good. You got it perfectly. I hope you had an appropriate
sneer on your face also!
--
John H

Get a room and consummate your 'union'!


Hello Don!

How's everything going? Hope you're having a good day!

Did someone say something offensive to or about you?
--
John H

Well.. for the Christmas Season I'd appreciate it if you'd pucker up to
Waylon's butt in private.
Decent , law abiding folk do read this newsgroup.


I sure hope you and yours have a great Christmas and a super New Year!

Do you do anything special for your Mom during Christmas? She'd probably
love to come visit and open presents with the family.
--
John H

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:47:24 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:29:57 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:44:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:58:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" ask wrote in message
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You folks really know how to pile it on.

Time to drop it already.............

http://www.eisboch.com/snowmoon.gif

Eisboch

Whatever.


You just uttered the most famous word in an 8th grade classroom! Did
you
know that?

Whaaaaaaaattttttttevvvverrrrr.

Damn, you're good. You got it perfectly. I hope you had an appropriate
sneer on your face also!
--
John H

Get a room and consummate your 'union'!


Hello Don!

How's everything going? Hope you're having a good day!

Did someone say something offensive to or about you?
--
John H

Well.. for the Christmas Season I'd appreciate it if you'd pucker up to
Waylon's butt in private.
Decent , law abiding folk do read this newsgroup.


PS. Don, where do you keep your mind? You and a couple others here sure
seem to think about such things a lot!
--
John H

On Dec 14, 6:59 am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:16:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 13, 1:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
I have to ask, what is a 1600 lb firecracker? If you mean a horse, I
love horses, but I do approach an unknown horse with caution, just so he
can get used to me.

I never cared for horses, I got thrown a couple times when i was a
kid. Once the horse got stung by a bee.

I'd rather take my chance's with an old Ossa 250 , or Bultaco 360. At
least if you get thrown off of them, it's probably your own fault.

When I was in sixth grade, living on my Grandfather's farm, he would take
me with him to visit the local farmers as he did his tax assessor duties.
He even let me drive his Hudson!

One day at a farm I noticed a Shetland pony in the pasture. The owner asked
if I'd like to ride it, which was exactly what I was hoping. So the owner
puts a bridle on the horse and says, "Get on!"

The little horse, with me hanging on and my feet damn near on the ground,
took off at a gallop for the end of the pasture. When it gets there, it
makes a U-turn, still hauling ass, and heads back to the fence where my
grandfather and the farmer are laughing their asses off at me trying to
stay on the damn animal.

Just as it got near the fence, and I'm thinking the little ******* is going
to slow down enough for me to get off, it makes a sharp left. I'm
frantically trying to get back to the middle of the little monster's back,
and look up just in time to see the chicken coop.

Apparently the little ****head horse had done this before, and knew it
could dislodge a passenger this way. The chicken coop door was only about 5
feet high, just high enough to let the horse through as the side of the
coop caught me in the chest and slid me off the ass end of the friggin'
beast! Yeah, Grandpa and the farmer had tears coming down their cheeks.

I've always liked horses, but I've never again trusted Shetland ponies, or
any of those other little *******s.
--
John H

John, I couldn't have said it better. Those little ****land ponies
were about the death of me. twice!

On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.

18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?

Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!

I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.

Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.

On Dec 14, 7:02 pm, Tim wrote:
On Dec 14, 6:59 am, John H. wrote:





On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:16:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 13, 1:23 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
I have to ask, what is a 1600 lb firecracker? If you mean a horse, I
love horses, but I do approach an unknown horse with caution, just so he
can get used to me.

I never cared for horses, I got thrown a couple times when i was a
kid. Once the horse got stung by a bee.

I'd rather take my chance's with an old Ossa 250 , or Bultaco 360. At
least if you get thrown off of them, it's probably your own fault.

When I was in sixth grade, living on my Grandfather's farm, he would take
me with him to visit the local farmers as he did his tax assessor duties.
He even let me drive his Hudson!

One day at a farm I noticed a Shetland pony in the pasture. The owner asked
if I'd like to ride it, which was exactly what I was hoping. So the owner
puts a bridle on the horse and says, "Get on!"

The little horse, with me hanging on and my feet damn near on the ground,
took off at a gallop for the end of the pasture. When it gets there, it
makes a U-turn, still hauling ass, and heads back to the fence where my
grandfather and the farmer are laughing their asses off at me trying to
stay on the damn animal.

Just as it got near the fence, and I'm thinking the little ******* is going
to slow down enough for me to get off, it makes a sharp left. I'm
frantically trying to get back to the middle of the little monster's back,
and look up just in time to see the chicken coop.

Apparently the little ****head horse had done this before, and knew it
could dislodge a passenger this way. The chicken coop door was only about 5
feet high, just high enough to let the horse through as the side of the
coop caught me in the chest and slid me off the ass end of the friggin'
beast! Yeah, Grandpa and the farmer had tears coming down their cheeks.

I've always liked horses, but I've never again trusted Shetland ponies, or
any of those other little *******s.
--
John H

John, I couldn't have said it better. Those little ****land ponies
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Yeah, there is one in our barn, it supposedly will bite if it takes a
notion. My little one has lunged it once or twice, just like a little
frekin' dog.

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.

18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?

Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!

I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.

Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.

I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40 gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H

On Dec 14, 7:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.

18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?

Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!

I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.

Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.

I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40 gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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I have heard of guys going across Long Island Sound in as little as 16
footers, I have heard about guys doing it in 12 footers, but I beleive
the guys that told me they did in 16-20 footers. I have even heard of
some guys going out to Block, or the Vinyard, but never 50 miles out.
Not doubting you at all (I would tell you if I was, just gotta' be
one stupid dude. For the sake of the discussion, I bet my skiff could
do it on a couple of 6 gallon tanks with the 8 horse at hull speed....
if I was stupid

wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.
18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?
Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!
I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.
Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.
I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40 gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have heard of guys going across Long Island Sound in as little as 16
footers, I have heard about guys doing it in 12 footers, but I beleive
the guys that told me they did in 16-20 footers. I have even heard of
some guys going out to Block, or the Vinyard, but never 50 miles out.
Not doubting you at all (I would tell you if I was, just gotta' be
one stupid dude. For the sake of the discussion, I bet my skiff could
do it on a couple of 6 gallon tanks with the 8 horse at hull speed....
if I was stupid


Sheesh. I used to run from Woodmont, CT, to Port Jeff over on Long
Island at least once a month during the summer in 14' outboard runabouts
with 15 or 18 horse evinrudes. On good days, obviously. The sound was
fairly predictable, and it wasn't 50 miles. In Florida, lots of guys
went 20-30 miles offshore in very small boats, but, again, the ocean in
Florida is easier than it is in the mid-Atlantic or off Jersey or
Massachusetts.

On Dec 14, 7:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.
18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?
Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!
I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.
Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.
I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40 gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have heard of guys going across Long Island Sound in as little as 16
footers, I have heard about guys doing it in 12 footers, but I beleive
the guys that told me they did in 16-20 footers. I have even heard of
some guys going out to Block, or the Vinyard, but never 50 miles out.
Not doubting you at all (I would tell you if I was, just gotta' be
one stupid dude. For the sake of the discussion, I bet my skiff could
do it on a couple of 6 gallon tanks with the 8 horse at hull speed....
if I was stupid

Sheesh. I used to run from Woodmont, CT, to Port Jeff over on Long
Island at least once a month during the summer in 14' outboard runabouts
with 15 or 18 horse evinrudes. On good days, obviously. The sound was
fairly predictable, and it wasn't 50 miles. In Florida, lots of guys
went 20-30 miles offshore in very small boats, but, again, the ocean in
Florida is easier than it is in the mid-Atlantic or off Jersey or
Massachusetts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, I can buy that... I know guys that did it in the Brockways,
don't have any reason to doubt them either.