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Wayne.B December 12th 07 05:06 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
From Docksider Reports:

http://www.docksidereports.com/small...ety_at_sea.htm

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Generally speaking, small boats such as outboards are far less sea
worthy than larger boats because:

The transoms are either wide open or cut down.
The cockpits are wide open, the freeboards are lower.
They have smaller and fewer bilge pumps, often only one.
They have smaller and fewer batteries.
Cockpit decks are not water tight.
Control cables have holes in liners that allow a lot of water entry.
Outboards have all the engine weight at the stern, making them stern
heavy.
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Further on, same source:

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Were I a lawyer, I could make a hell of a good legal argument that
boats that meet this description are not seaworthy to be out in the
ocean. But hundreds of them are out there every day and only a handful
of them meet with calamity. So why don't more of them founder? Mainly
due to dumb luck. It takes the right circumstances at the right time
to create the disaster. Like that loose bilge pump wire I mentioned
earlier.

One of those circumstances is when the fisherman stops and puts his
stern to the waves. Water is sloshing over the transom and what he is
not realizing is that the bilge is slowly filling up with water
through all those holes and leaks. It doesn't take much water in the
bilge before the hull looses enough buoyancy that one bigger wave
comes over the transom and fills up the cockpit. At this point, the
sheer weight of the water has turned moderate leakage into the hull
into cascades of water. The hull is now even lower in the water and
the next wave is the coup de gras.
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Be careful out there, especially the LTs among us.




HK December 12th 07 05:10 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
Wayne.B wrote:
From Docksider Reports:






Y-A-W-N.

Nice try, troller.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_2_] December 12th 07 05:59 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
Wayne.B wrote:
From Docksider Reports:

http://www.docksidereports.com/small...ety_at_sea.htm

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Generally speaking, small boats such as outboards are far less sea
worthy than larger boats because:

The transoms are either wide open or cut down.
The cockpits are wide open, the freeboards are lower.
They have smaller and fewer bilge pumps, often only one.
They have smaller and fewer batteries.
Cockpit decks are not water tight.
Control cables have holes in liners that allow a lot of water entry.
Outboards have all the engine weight at the stern, making them stern
heavy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Further on, same source:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Were I a lawyer, I could make a hell of a good legal argument that
boats that meet this description are not seaworthy to be out in the
ocean. But hundreds of them are out there every day and only a handful
of them meet with calamity. So why don't more of them founder? Mainly
due to dumb luck. It takes the right circumstances at the right time
to create the disaster. Like that loose bilge pump wire I mentioned
earlier.

One of those circumstances is when the fisherman stops and puts his
stern to the waves. Water is sloshing over the transom and what he is
not realizing is that the bilge is slowly filling up with water
through all those holes and leaks. It doesn't take much water in the
bilge before the hull looses enough buoyancy that one bigger wave
comes over the transom and fills up the cockpit. At this point, the
sheer weight of the water has turned moderate leakage into the hull
into cascades of water. The hull is now even lower in the water and
the next wave is the coup de gras.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Be careful out there, especially the LTs among us.




I am trying to figure out what possible advantage an LT boat offers.
Why wouldn't they include an engine well, it can't be that expensive.


Harry Krause December 12th 07 06:10 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
From Docksider Reports:

I am trying to figure out what possible advantage an LT boat offers. Why
wouldn't they include an engine well, it can't be that expensive.



Only an inexperienced boater would believe that the splash guard on a
small outboard boat is going to keep water off the deck.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_2_] December 12th 07 06:24 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
harry krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
From Docksider Reports:

I am trying to figure out what possible advantage an LT boat offers.
Why wouldn't they include an engine well, it can't be that expensive.



Only an inexperienced boater would believe that the splash guard on a
small outboard boat is going to keep water off the deck.


My 1972 runabout did a great job of keeping the water out. The engine
well was just as high as the transom. I know there is no one in
rec.boats who has your experience. Heck, you use your boating almost 20
hrs a year.

Harry Krause December 12th 07 06:29 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
harry krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
From Docksider Reports:
I am trying to figure out what possible advantage an LT boat offers.
Why wouldn't they include an engine well, it can't be that expensive.



Only an inexperienced boater would believe that the splash guard on a
small outboard boat is going to keep water off the deck.


My 1972 runabout did a great job of keeping the water out. The engine
well was just as high as the transom. I know there is no one in
rec.boats who has your experience. Heck, you use your boating almost 20
hrs a year.




Well, Reggie, my 2008 Parker does a great job at keeping the water out.

So did my 1954 Amesbury dory with the 15" transom.

More of your snarky games, Reggie. You criticize the boats of others but
you don't have the balls to tell us precisely what brand, model, year of
boat you allegedly own now. But that's the way you are with everything,
right, a**hole?

Of course, your criticism is meaningless, because all you know about
boats is what google tells you.

Larry December 12th 07 06:53 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
Wayne.B wrote in
:

Generally speaking, small boats such as outboards are far less

sea
worthy than larger boats because:

The transoms are either wide open or cut down.
The cockpits are wide open, the freeboards are lower.
They have smaller and fewer bilge pumps, often only one.
They have smaller and fewer batteries.
Cockpit decks are not water tight.
Control cables have holes in liners that allow a lot of water

entry.
Outboards have all the engine weight at the stern, making them

stern
heavy.


Well, duhh....(c;

How much tax money did this scientific revelation cost us?

Remember the gummit report on why children fall off
bicycles?...hee hee. Must be the same bureaucrats.

Larry
--
Merry Christmas!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE

Harry Krause December 12th 07 06:59 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
Larry wrote:
Wayne.B wrote in
:

Generally speaking, small boats such as outboards are far less

sea
worthy than larger boats because:

The transoms are either wide open or cut down.
The cockpits are wide open, the freeboards are lower.
They have smaller and fewer bilge pumps, often only one.
They have smaller and fewer batteries.
Cockpit decks are not water tight.
Control cables have holes in liners that allow a lot of water

entry.
Outboards have all the engine weight at the stern, making them

stern
heavy.


Well, duhh....(c;

How much tax money did this scientific revelation cost us?

Remember the gummit report on why children fall off
bicycles?...hee hee. Must be the same bureaucrats.

Larry

And of course large barge powerboats usually sink like a stone if
they're holed or swamped or if the prop shaft falls out...

[email protected] December 12th 07 07:03 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
On Dec 12, 1:29 pm, harry krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





harry krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
From Docksider Reports:
I am trying to figure out what possible advantage an LT boat offers.
Why wouldn't they include an engine well, it can't be that expensive.


Only an inexperienced boater would believe that the splash guard on a
small outboard boat is going to keep water off the deck.


My 1972 runabout did a great job of keeping the water out. The engine
well was just as high as the transom. I know there is no one in
rec.boats who has your experience. Heck, you use your boating almost 20
hrs a year.


Well, Reggie, my 2008 Parker does a great job at keeping the water out.

So did my 1954 Amesbury dory with the 15" transom.

More of your snarky games, Reggie. You criticize the boats of others but
you don't have the balls to tell us precisely what brand, model, year of
boat you allegedly own now.


The exact same could be said of you, Harry. You claim to own more than
one boat, correct? And you do continuously criticize other types of
boats. Remember?



"But that's the way you are with everything,
right, a**hole?"



[email protected] December 12th 07 07:04 PM

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 
On Dec 12, 1:59 pm, harry krause wrote:
Larry wrote:
Wayne.B wrote in
:


Generally speaking, small boats such as outboards are far less

sea
worthy than larger boats because:


The transoms are either wide open or cut down.
The cockpits are wide open, the freeboards are lower.
They have smaller and fewer bilge pumps, often only one.
They have smaller and fewer batteries.
Cockpit decks are not water tight.
Control cables have holes in liners that allow a lot of water

entry.
Outboards have all the engine weight at the stern, making them

stern
heavy.


Well, duhh....(c;


How much tax money did this scientific revelation cost us?


Remember the gummit report on why children fall off
bicycles?...hee hee. Must be the same bureaucrats.


Larry


And of course large barge powerboats usually sink like a stone if
they're holed or swamped or if the prop shaft falls out...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Why do you critisize the boats of others?


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