"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
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2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows
XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than
4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




I have 47 programs, and their supporting libraries installed on
my Nokia N800 Maemo Linux internet tablet, including the Garnet
Palm OS virtual machine (3.9M) and its Palm OS programs. They
all occupy 25.6MB leaving 68MB of free internal memory for more.
This doesn't count anything on the two 8GB SD cards I installed.

Maemo Linux (Debian) memory usage is tiny!


Larry
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Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and I
said no thanks.

We recently replaced an aging machine at my office, and of course it came
with vista. After about a month of it falling off the network, which by the
way froze the computer if it was accessing a network share, as well as other
less critical, but annoying problems, I douched it and put on XP Pro. Not a
problem since.

Maybe SP1 will help, but I've already heard very good things about SP3 for
XP... hmmm.

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down 50% from
Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS VISTA.. How ironic that by
writing code that nobody wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps
they should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP. What
took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am 100% MS free and
loving every minute of it.

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and I
said no thanks.

We recently replaced an aging machine at my office, and of course it came
with vista. After about a month of it falling off the network, which by
the way froze the computer if it was accessing a network share, as well as
other less critical, but annoying problems, I douched it and put on XP
Pro. Not a problem since.

Maybe SP1 will help, but I've already heard very good things about SP3 for
XP... hmmm.

Instead of downgrading to XP, you could have upgraded to a penguin, Unbuntu
or Fedora. No kill switch, no DRM, no back doors and no Bill watching you.

OK.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news:FiL5j.1996$iU.751@pd7urf2no...

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.

We recently replaced an aging machine at my office, and of course it came
with vista. After about a month of it falling off the network, which by
the way froze the computer if it was accessing a network share, as well
as other less critical, but annoying problems, I douched it and put on XP
Pro. Not a problem since.

Maybe SP1 will help, but I've already heard very good things about SP3
for XP... hmmm.

Instead of downgrading to XP, you could have upgraded to a penguin,
Unbuntu or Fedora. No kill switch, no DRM, no back doors and no Bill
watching you.

"Mike" wrote in message
...

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and I
said no thanks.


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can. Our
household has a total of 4 computers, including three laptops (one used on
the boat) and a regular tower type. All have either XP Pro or Home
editions. My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

Thinking back, it seems like MS either hits a homerun or strikes out with
their new operating systems. Since I am not a heavy computer user, Windows
3.1 did me fine until it simply would not operate on the Internet anymore
..... sometime in the mid 90's. To me, it was pretty much trouble-free.
Then there was Win 95 that I used until the current computers were purchased
with XP installed. Meanwhile, it seems like there were a bunch of
strike-outs by Microsoft.... Win 98 Win 2000, Millennium, and another that
I can't remember. You don't hear many good things about them. My hunch is
that XP will fall in the ranks of 3.1 and Win 95. Based on what I've read,
Vista seems to already have two strikes on it. Since I am a user of a
computer, not a troubleshooter or software detangler, I'd rather keep what
has proved to work reliably until it is simply obsolete.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.




One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.
I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Eisboch

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:46:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.

I tried Firefox and didn't like it.

I might, now that I've been using the latest iteration of Explorer,
try it again.

I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Thunderbird has some interesting "quirks" but you expect that for open
source programs.

Agent I've been with since like forever and am used to it, although I
will admit, it's not the most intuitive program ever designed.

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:46:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
...

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.




One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.
I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Eisboch


I've been happy with Firefox, except in those very rare cases when I need
something from MS. MS Outloook works well, haven't tried the Express
version. I'd never use Agent as an email program, but it does a great job
at one thing - newsgroups.
--
John H

Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
...

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.



One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.
I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Eisboch



Try Seamonkey. It's the best of both worlds integrated into one suite
and it's still from Mozilla.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:36:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can.

I've stayed out of this, but I will say this.

My brother runs a huge IT operation and knows his stuff when it comes
to this.

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.