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Eisboch March 14th 07 09:36 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom March 14th 07 09:44 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.



Not the killer parakeets....tell me it's not that.



Eisboch March 14th 07 09:48 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.




Not the killer parakeets....tell me it's not that.



SSSSHhhhhhhh!!!!

(jeeze)

Eisboch



Harry Krause March 14th 07 09:56 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch




O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?

JimH March 14th 07 10:01 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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""UglyDan®©T"" wrote in message
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(basskisser)wrote
Locked in a room for one hour with me.


I seriously doubt hurling obscenities at someone like that would have
much effect.
Then again being locked up in the same room with you for more than five
minutes would probably drive anyone crazy.
BTW, Hows it going with FSX? UD





Dan, unless you like to read his posts for entertainment value it is best
to put him in your bozo-bin. He has never offered anything positive to
this NG.



You, on the other hand, offer enlightenment at every turn. I can't tell
you how many times I've awakened in the wee hours of the morning, checked
the newsgroup, and been crushed when I didn't find new messages from you.

Asshole.


I guess we all have our flaws. Yours include your total lack of common
sense and inability to think logically.......most especially having a potty
mouth akin to a 12 year old boy.

Have a nice day Doug.



Eisboch March 14th 07 10:15 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?



Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's at
a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he has his
arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch



Harry Krause March 14th 07 10:30 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.

I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch


O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?



Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's at
a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he has his
arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch



Would have have been Clint's restaurant? We ate there a night he was
there. Nice to see him (we didn't invade his privacy). The food was
mediocre.

Chuck Gould March 14th 07 11:16 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
On Mar 14, 2:23�pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Always tell the cops "If I find them before you do, you'd better have a
real strong stomach, officer, because all you're gonna find is a hand in
a zip lock bag".


Why should you be the only one nauseated? Share it.


Our house was broken into back in the mid-80's while we were at work and
the kids were in school.
They stole a TV, VCR/camera and some other misc. stuff.


When the cops arrived and were dusting for prints and taking our
statement, one of them asked me how it felt. *I told him I was bull****
and wished I had been at home when they broke in. *He told me if it ever
happened again to use a baseball bat or a 2x4 cut in half on them (but not
a gun) before I called the police. *He said they wouldn't ask any
questions.


Eisboch


Bummer! * Have you seen this?http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. *We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And you are even more vulnerable if you have a "master key" system on
your door. A normal pin tumbler lock works very simply. When someone
attempts to turn the key, the core cylinder is prevented from
revolving by a series of pins that protrude from the outside cylinder
into the core cylinder. Each pin has an upper and lower section, and
the lengths will vary. The cuts on a key are designed to lift the
individual pins to a level where the separation between the upper and
lower pins lines up exactly with the intersection of the inner and
outer core.

Picking a lock is fairly easy. A small wrench inserted into the keyway
is used to sustain a moderate amount of torque on the inner cylinder
while a "pick" is inserted to raise the tumblers, one at a time, to
the point where the separation
in the pin meets the intersection of the inner and outer cylinders.
Since the tumbler holes are never drilled *exactly* straight, the
cylinder will normally shift just enough to keep the upper portion of
the pin from falling back through the intersection of the cylinders.

Always try to resist having a "master key" pin tumbler system if you
can.
Master keys work by using a greater number of sections for each
tumbler, thereby creating more opportunities for a split in the pin to
line up with the edge of the cylinder.

All these bumpers are doing is relying on the jarring impact of a
hammer, screwdriver, etc, to "bounce" the tumblers enough so that the
torque will turn the cylinder. Pretty primitive, but often effective.
I'm surprised that it took this long for the crooks to figure that one
out. :-)

Somewhat more on topic: Even notice how many $1mm boats are protected
by nothing more than a $20 padlock? And anybody that has ever been in
a marine related business very quickly realizes that most boats have a
"hideout" key that usually be found in one of 8-10 common locations
near the aft bulkhead door. It's amazing that we have as little theft
in marinas as we do.
Security gates may look impressive, but anybody with a $9.99 air
mattress can figure out how to get around the security gate at a
marina.


JimH March 14th 07 11:25 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Mar 14, 2:23?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


Always tell the cops "If I find them before you do, you'd better have a
real strong stomach, officer, because all you're gonna find is a hand
in
a zip lock bag".


Why should you be the only one nauseated? Share it.


Our house was broken into back in the mid-80's while we were at work and
the kids were in school.
They stole a TV, VCR/camera and some other misc. stuff.


When the cops arrived and were dusting for prints and taking our
statement, one of them asked me how it felt. I told him I was bull****
and wished I had been at home when they broke in. He told me if it ever
happened again to use a baseball bat or a 2x4 cut in half on them (but
not
a gun) before I called the police. He said they wouldn't ask any
questions.


Eisboch


Bummer! Have you seen
this?http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And you are even more vulnerable if you have a "master key" system on
your door. A normal pin tumbler lock works very simply. When someone
attempts to turn the key, the core cylinder is prevented from
revolving by a series of pins that protrude from the outside cylinder
into the core cylinder. Each pin has an upper and lower section, and
the lengths will vary. The cuts on a key are designed to lift the
individual pins to a level where the separation between the upper and
lower pins lines up exactly with the intersection of the inner and
outer core.

Picking a lock is fairly easy. A small wrench inserted into the keyway
is used to sustain a moderate amount of torque on the inner cylinder
while a "pick" is inserted to raise the tumblers, one at a time, to
the point where the separation
in the pin meets the intersection of the inner and outer cylinders.
Since the tumbler holes are never drilled *exactly* straight, the
cylinder will normally shift just enough to keep the upper portion of
the pin from falling back through the intersection of the cylinders.

Always try to resist having a "master key" pin tumbler system if you
can.
Master keys work by using a greater number of sections for each
tumbler, thereby creating more opportunities for a split in the pin to
line up with the edge of the cylinder.

All these bumpers are doing is relying on the jarring impact of a
hammer, screwdriver, etc, to "bounce" the tumblers enough so that the
torque will turn the cylinder. Pretty primitive, but often effective.
I'm surprised that it took this long for the crooks to figure that one
out. :-)

Somewhat more on topic: Even notice how many $1mm boats are protected
by nothing more than a $20 padlock? And anybody that has ever been in
a marine related business very quickly realizes that most boats have a
"hideout" key that usually be found in one of 8-10 common locations
near the aft bulkhead door. It's amazing that we have as little theft
in marinas as we do.
Security gates may look impressive, but anybody with a $9.99 air
mattress can figure out how to get around the security gate at a
marina.

============

Good advice! ;-)



Dan March 14th 07 11:42 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Tim wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:19�pm, "Don White" wrote:

Woke up this morning at 0630 and looked out the window. Voyager mini-van not
where it was at 0130hrs.
At first I thought my son had gone for an all-nighter until I saw the tell
tale broken glass. While I was on the phone to the police, my wife came back
from walking the dog to tell me she found the van around the corner with the
engine still running. �I went over and sure enough, the driver window was
smashed out with glass all over my seat. �The ignition was ripped out, and
the radio cd player gone. �Took almost an hour for the police to show up.
He did his report and I drove the van directly to the closest Chrysler
dealership (walking distance). �Still have collision/comprehensive on the
vehicle so I now have a rental while the van is made whole again.
My deductable on this is $100.00.



a thousand dollars in damages, and went half way around the block.

Well a couple weekeds ago some little locals decided to bust out the
windows on the back of my shop. 8 of them. about 800$ worth of (now)
plexiglass and labor. I'm also going to put industiral screening over
them. I hate to make the building look "Ghetto" but I don't know what
else to do.

Of course, If I caught one doing the damage, I'd be the one going to
jail.

The police just looked at the damage and shook their heads.


Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have
full perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone
would want to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I
also have one camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in
inventory right now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than
I pay for it in insurance premiums.

Dan


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