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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:52:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:15:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Duke Nukem" wrote in message
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On 15 Mar 2007 07:06:44 -0700, "
wrote:

One of the problems in my corner of reality is grafitti. The
consensus is that the only way to stop it is to smash the skull of
one
of them and leave the vandal's body, holding the can of spray paint
and laying under the half-finished vandalism, to rot for a day or
so.

My kind of solution. Although I would add that impalement would be a
much better choice.

You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and become
rich
beyond your wildest dreams.

The one element about you which constantly fascinates me is your
fustian discourse on completely off-the-cuff commentary moving from
the land of the obviously absurd to the land of semi-relevance.

It's not enough to add to or merely let something pass; you have to
connect to a greater idea. It's almost as if your psyche has to prove
a point and thus reveal your view of the world for all to see.

"Tis a curiosity.

I'm simply pointing out that odd religious phenomenon are popular and
often
successful. Why....look! Here's one:

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2925021&page=1

Game. Set. Match.

BLAM!!!!

The cynic never has to live with disappointment because being a
professional doubter has great appeal to that enlightened portion of
humanity like yourself which finds comfort in detesting the rest of
the species for whatever reason appeals to you.

The fact that you used an example from Christian symbology only shows
how perfect the above statement is.


Detesting? I gave you a link to some nut who thinks he is Jesus Christ. As
far as other examples of briefly lived home brewed religions, there are
loads of examples, some of which end tragically.

Just because some people like religion and what it has done for them, this
doesn't mean that the other examples do not exist. If there are fish here
where I live, does it mean there are NO fish where you live, or are the two
things independent of one another?

The embodiment of a cynic is a negative form of aggressive
individualism; the constant questioning of collective values,
standards of collective decency, institutional rules. The cynic uses
singular exceptions of deviance prove that any embodiment of social
structure fail the test of rational judgement.

True cynics believe themselves enlightened by virtue of education and
the ability to comprehend the nuance and true nature of any social
issue or attribute. This peculiarity of purpose - to proselytize the
naked truth to the masses - is the signature attribute of fourth tier
leaders, courtiers and second-year college students whose main issue
in life is to appear worldly as being naive to a cynic is admitting
personal faults.

Cynics become empowered out of the inevitable distance between ideals
and reality - the cynic misidentifies sarcasm as wisdom. At their very
core, cynics are resigned to the defeatist attitude that nothing can
really change for the better, that everthing is relative, that the
common good can only be made better if all lived as the cynic does.

You are the very archetype.

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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:52:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:15:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Duke Nukem" wrote in message
news:nuniv2lqfs73d8n4onqrvfo0oi64cvbfe6@4a x.com...
On 15 Mar 2007 07:06:44 -0700, "
wrote:

One of the problems in my corner of reality is grafitti. The
consensus is that the only way to stop it is to smash the skull of
one
of them and leave the vandal's body, holding the can of spray
paint
and laying under the half-finished vandalism, to rot for a day
or
so.

My kind of solution. Although I would add that impalement would be
a
much better choice.

You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and
become
rich
beyond your wildest dreams.

The one element about you which constantly fascinates me is your
fustian discourse on completely off-the-cuff commentary moving from
the land of the obviously absurd to the land of semi-relevance.

It's not enough to add to or merely let something pass; you have to
connect to a greater idea. It's almost as if your psyche has to
prove
a point and thus reveal your view of the world for all to see.

"Tis a curiosity.

I'm simply pointing out that odd religious phenomenon are popular and
often
successful. Why....look! Here's one:

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2925021&page=1

Game. Set. Match.

BLAM!!!!

The cynic never has to live with disappointment because being a
professional doubter has great appeal to that enlightened portion of
humanity like yourself which finds comfort in detesting the rest of
the species for whatever reason appeals to you.

The fact that you used an example from Christian symbology only shows
how perfect the above statement is.


Detesting? I gave you a link to some nut who thinks he is Jesus Christ. As
far as other examples of briefly lived home brewed religions, there are
loads of examples, some of which end tragically.

Just because some people like religion and what it has done for them, this
doesn't mean that the other examples do not exist. If there are fish here
where I live, does it mean there are NO fish where you live, or are the
two
things independent of one another?

The embodiment of a cynic is a negative form of aggressive
individualism; the constant questioning of collective values,
standards of collective decency, institutional rules. The cynic uses
singular exceptions of deviance prove that any embodiment of social
structure fail the test of rational judgement.

True cynics believe themselves enlightened by virtue of education and
the ability to comprehend the nuance and true nature of any social
issue or attribute. This peculiarity of purpose - to proselytize the
naked truth to the masses - is the signature attribute of fourth tier
leaders, courtiers and second-year college students whose main issue
in life is to appear worldly as being naive to a cynic is admitting
personal faults.

Cynics become empowered out of the inevitable distance between ideals
and reality - the cynic misidentifies sarcasm as wisdom. At their very
core, cynics are resigned to the defeatist attitude that nothing can
really change for the better, that everthing is relative, that the
common good can only be made better if all lived as the cynic does.

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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snipped the really good stuff

You are the very archetype.



Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

Is this going to be a two-part or a three-part quiz?

(nicely done, Tom,)

Eisboch

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
.. .

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

"You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and become
rich beyond your wildest dreams."

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
. ..

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

"You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and become
rich beyond your wildest dreams."


But, the guy from Houston, who thinks he's Jesus - is it OK for me to be
cynical about him?

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:27:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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snipped the really good stuff

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

Is this going to be a two-part or a three-part quiz?

If Doug follows true to form it will be become an orgy of whirling
electrons flashing back and forth between news servers in a never
ending cycle of point/counter point - a perpetual never ending
discussion solving nothing and giving me a huge headache..

Sadly, I'm about all intellecutalized out - the muse is fading.

(nicely done, Tom,)

Thanks. I knew those courses in Philosophical Anthropology would come
in handy some day. Of course it took nigh onto 40 years to finally
put it to use, but....

Anybody up for a game of Go Fish? :)

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:49:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

"You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and become
rich beyond your wildest dreams."

But, the guy from Houston, who thinks he's Jesus - is it OK for me to be
cynical about him?

That's not my decision. :)

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

basskisser wrote:
On Mar 14, 8:08 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Speaking of theft, what do you think would be appropriate punishment for
the guy that smacked the 100+ year old lady, fractured her cheek bone and
robbed her of 33 bucks?

I understand they have a massive manhunt, including many vigilantes, on the
search for him.

Eisboch

Locked in a room for one hour with me.

IMHO Put him in a room with that 70+ year old marine who killed the
20 something kid in Central America!
That'll show him who's boss!!


Fredo

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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:49:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
m...

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm
questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

"You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and become
rich beyond your wildest dreams."

But, the guy from Houston, who thinks he's Jesus - is it OK for me to be
cynical about him?

That's not my decision. :)


Why? Because he's not part of the officially sanctioned collective values
(yet)? These collective values have no inherent legitimacy apart from the
numbers of people who adhere to them.

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:39:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:49:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
om...

You are the very archetype.

Give me an example of the "collective values" you think I'm
questioning -
the ones which generated your comments.

"You could impale them on a crucifix, open your own church, and become
rich beyond your wildest dreams."

But, the guy from Houston, who thinks he's Jesus - is it OK for me to be
cynical about him?

That's not my decision. :)

Why?

Because I'm not you.

Because he's not part of the officially sanctioned collective values (yet)?
These collective values have no inherent legitimacy apart from the
numbers of people who adhere to them.

Alloow me to recap:

"The embodiment of a cynic is a negative form of aggressive
individualism; the constant questioning of collective values,
standards of collective decency, institutional rules. The cynic uses
singular exceptions of deviance prove that any embodiment of social
structure fail the test of rational judgement."